Mark Devlin interviews MK’d Cathy O’Brien RE Satanica Musica

Mark Devlin interviews MK’d Cathy O’Brien RE Satanica Musica

Mark Devlin interviews MK’d Cathy O’Brien RE Satanica Musica

“Trance-Formation of America” book

“I am a survivor of CIA MK-ULTRA mind control. I was used on a White House / Pentagon level. I was deep in the Washington, DC swamp among perpetrators who steal elections and fund their globalist agenda with drug and human trafficking across open borders, and who use mind control to usher in their global slave-society agenda.” New World Order. Great Reset. Whatever they want to call it. It’s a Slave Society Agenda, and Mind Control is key.

If she’s lying, it’s been a pretty consistent and long-term lie; that’s pretty hard to do. Imagine it’s even partly true. Then mostly. Then what if it’s not nearly true enough?

By 18:25 Cathy has explained much, and Mark takes over to lead the discussion into how truths and triggers are placed within music videos.

“The more you know, the more you see how this all stacks up. And the more you know the more you won’t cooperate with it any more. …awareness is key to being able to stop it.” 28:08 in

The standing six-feet apart is due to the personal bio-auric field discussed by Eileen McKusick.

NEVER COMPLY AGAIN.

Transcript

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so I've spoken about MK Ultra trauma based mind control a lot in my work
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mainly it's applications in music and entertainment and my guest today will be one of the world's leading authorities
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on the subject as she's been through it all survived and come out on the other side we were both featured in the recent
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Amazon Prime documentary A Clockwork shining which uh proposed the theory
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that Stanley Kubrick's movie The Shining was actually a coded reference to the MK Ultra experimentation and that Stanley
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would have known all about it she's the author of The highly informative book Transformation of America so welcome on
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to Kathy O'Brien thank you for having me no
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worries appreciate it now I know you've St told your story a million times and
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I'm really sorry to ask you to go over it again but if you can bear to just give the viewers a potted his history of
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uh your life and what you've been through and how you were able to break free of your MK programming uh you don't
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have to go into huge detail but just a general sort of overview of of what it was that you were involved with if you
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don't mind yes I'm a Survivor of CIA MK Ultra mind control I was used on a White
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House Pentagon level and I was deep in the Washington DC swamp among
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perpetrators who steal El s and fund their globalist agenda with drug and
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human trafficking across open borders and who use mind control to usher in
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their Global slave Society agenda this was the what Adolf Hitler and George
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Bush and Joe Biden and so many other uh self-appointed self-anointed leaders call the New World Order um great reset
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there's just so whatever name they want to call it it's a slave Society agenda and mind control is key mind control is
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a scientific formula this formula is the same whether it's of an individual a
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nation a classroom a military or the world and Trauma is a basis of it this
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formula for mind control came into the US with Project Paperclip we didn't win
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World War II we imported it into the US with the Nazi andasio scientists with them came the formula for mind control
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and um that has been in use on a global scale again because it's a new world
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order for a long long time but that formula is the same trauma is the basis
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of it and had been found through Hitler himler research there's no trauma more horrific on the human mind than sexual
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abuse of a child prior to age five while their brain is still forming
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so additionally occultism Satanic ritual abuse is is way up there in uh traumatic
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events on the brain but ultimately what happens is when our brains experience
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trauma that's too horrible to comprehend we have a defense mechanism in our
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brains that shut down neuron Pathways around that trauma and repress it deep
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into the subconscious so the rest of the mind can develop and function normally well this repressed memory this shutting
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down in our on Pathways as soon as those are shut down we lose more and more of our free thought as we lose more and
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more free thought we're more highly suggestible and easily LED it had also
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been found through the Hitler himler research that after three generations any abuse based knowledgebase belief
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system becomes autogenic in the brain the information has passed down
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genetically so by the time I was born in 1957 in mosan
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Michigan this um MK Ultra mind control was already a full swing with the CIA
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and because I was born into a multigenerational incest based family I
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would already be born highly suggestible and adding mind control to that is how I
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became targeted for this high level of MK Ultra mind control my father sexual
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abuse started in infancy before I could think to know what he was doing was wrong but my brain
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knew and so it shut down the neuron Pathways around that event shoved it
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deep into my subconscious so the rest of my mind could develop normally my father
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also was using me in child pornography that shut down more neuron Pathways
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repressed it deep in my subconscious he was trafficking me to my grandfather's
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bluma Sonic Lodge as just a very little toddler because this this pedophile
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agenda includes uh blackmail operations I think we've all seen that now with
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Epstein Island and you know Diddy tapes and there's there's so many things that have been coming to light with the
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obvious blackmail of these tapes um of these films being um used as a a
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blackmail operation so I was being used in those as a little child that was already in full swing all the way back
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in 1960 well my father was caught send in child pornography of me through the US
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males when he was um this local politician that I've been trafficed to
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since I was a little bitty toddler uh approached my father and told him he could receive immunity from prosecution
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if he would sell me into the cia's MK Ultram mind control program he did and
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this shows how our justice system has been corrupted um for for decades to
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allow for the proliferation of pedophilia because it is the ultimate
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mind control agenda intended to create a compliant Society for
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this agenda that um that is being that has been being imposed for for so long
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so um that politician was Gerald Ford um he was just a local politician at the
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time of course he went on to become the unelected president of the United States
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as his political career escalated so toed my victimization in MK Ultra mind
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control so um in an effort to encapsulate a whole lot of pertinent
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information on mind control um into a small bit that is an outline of how I
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ended up being um a White House Pentagon level MK ult mind control
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slave sure well we'll come back to uh certain points that you've raised there
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but you mentioned that you come from a multigenerational family that's been involved in this and in your experience
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is that how individuals get selected for trauma based mind control programs is it
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down to the family bloodline that you're unfortunate enough to be born into or is
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there a provision for those that might not come from those families that get brought into it for some other reason
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I think there's a a lot of both that's going on especially these days with the technological refinements of um mind
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manipulation and um brain stimulation so um in in my particular case the the
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multigenerational aspect the bloodline was why I was targeted for it my father
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had been sexually abused and ritually abused my mother had been sexually abused and traffic to my grand father's
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blue Masonic Lodge where the local politicians hung out so you know we've got this this lineage that goes up and
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it's not unlike what we see with the Bloodlines of these um self-appointed
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self-anointed Global Elite who think they need to tell us how to live our lives you know they keep it in their
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family too because of the reality of how our brains pass down genetic
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information sure you mentioned Gerald Ford there and in your book you
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mentioned several other prominent politicians some very well-known names that you say were involved in your abuse
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have any of these people come after you threatening legal action or anything of that nature or have they just let your
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claims fly in that way um well when I was first lifted from
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my MK alra victimization in 1988 it was believed that I could not heal to
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remember that I could not um deprogram myself and reclaim my free thought Free
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Will so they weren't concerned with that at first and um they they thought I was
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going to die anyway so they weren't they weren't you know concerned in that regard but um they also believed that
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the National Security Act would keep the information silent because my 1995
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testimony for congress transformation of America name names detailed what this
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globalist agenda is about and how um drug and human trafficking is funding it
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who's involved what global leaders have been involved in enslaving their Nations
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um and I did name all those names there so those are in a transformation of
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America but as quickly as that testimony was compiled National Security was
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invoked on it which meant that I would never see any conventional Justice in
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spite of the overwhelming evidence every word in transformation of America was
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validated by members of intelligence Secret Service law enforcement you know
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so it was all the evidence was there on every bit of it which is why National
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Security um was invoked to keep it quiet so with the National Security on it uh
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it would suppress the information it would not be able to be um like
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televised or or anything like that so the information was censored and controlled that way but also any claims
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to Justice were um stopped at that point and Justice being stopped meant that
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they could not bring me to court and bring this information up either because it had already been proved so it was
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kind of a you know just stand still on it legally yeah how does Bohemian Grove
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Connect into K Ultra Bohemian Grove was an Epstein island of its time um so was ma Island
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Michigan where I was trafficked as a little bitty toddler it's where the Michigan's uh Governor's Mansion is
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located where I was exposed to leaders like Pierre Trudeau um who was the Prime
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Minister of Canada um Justin's whatever father um and uh whom
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where I meet my owner in mkra US senator Robert bird as my owner Senator bird
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decided where I would be taken um who I would be prostituted to what government leaders I would deliver messages to and
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this included being trafficked to um politicians Global politicians that were
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meeting at Bohemian Grove that wasn't just us that was um um part of this
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globalist agenda where they would meet in secret and then because these
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perpetrators don't uh trust each other either they hold each other by the blackmails so to speak so um I was used
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to fulfill perversions that were being filmed um as a means of controlling them
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at Bohemian Grove so you know that's been going on my whole life I'm so happy
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that things like Epstein Island have finally come out where people realize this is going on of course we still
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haven't seen any justice because um our justice system has been covering up
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these crimes against humanity uh my whole life right how do you even begin to
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recover and deprogram from the sort of stuff that you've been through because to reverse engineer all of that would
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also require a very intricate understanding of the complexities of the the human mind so anyone that's going to
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undertake the deprogramming exercise must know as much as the controllers themselves I guess so what does that
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look like what does that of because clearly you've been able to uh recover and move on uh what does that
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involve it's um healing is a process it's not an event and it takes time very
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fortunately for me there's an intelligence Insider working the highest levels of intelligence mind Sciences in
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the US Mark Phillips um he was working to preserve the sanctity of free thought
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because he knew like I know from experience without free thought there's no free will with no free will there's
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no soul expression without Soul expression we lose our compassion for
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each other we lose our capacity for wisdom to think things through um we
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lose our ability to gather the strength of the human Spirit and the infinite power of love to live our life's purpose
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the way it's intended to be lived so ultimately the mind control agenda being imposed on Humanity was a is a spiritual
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battle when you get down to it to to that degree but it's also what these
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perpetrators fear the most because when we gather our strength of spirit we have an ability to stand against them and say
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no we have an ability to reclaim and retain our free thought we have an
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ability to um live with our own moral compass and stop following these um
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leaders that we didn't elect so Mark was seeing how mind control was being used
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by a handful who had a very adverse agenda and he wanted to do something about it by the time he saw children
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being taken in and out of the White House when he saw how blackmail operations were compromising judges and
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politicians he decided he was going to do something about it and he lifted my
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daughter and me right out of the Washington DC human trafficking swamp all the way back in
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1988 and he handed me keys to my own mind um by the time Mark rescued me I
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had no ability to even think to know there were good people in the world but
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my brain knew just like when my father's sexual abuse in infancy caused the
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neuron Pathways to shut down my brain knew I was safe for the first time and
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the neuron Pathways began to open as those neuron Pathways begin to open the
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um repressed memory the repressed trauma begin to surface and I began seeing this
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on my mind screen you know what had happened and as I saw it Mark told me
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that I could write it out to just pick up a pen and a paper because it's like a
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brain trick it's a mind hack we all can use when we move a pen the very Act of
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move in a pen activates the logic critical analysis part of the brain and
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it's U so it was taking the emotionally incomprehensible trauma shifting it over
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to logic where it was written out on paper and seing consciously where it
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could be dealt with this allows for healing on all levels psychiatrically
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the neuron Pathways in the brain were opening back up psychologically emotionally
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spiritually it all comes into play and it's not that Mark deprogrammed me you
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don't need someone skilled to know everything that perpetrators know what
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victims have experienced is all within them and they know from within themselves so healing
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must come from within and it's within us all to heal and that's the the best news
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no matter what life puts our way we can heal from it because what happens to us
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is not Who We Are Who We Are is still within and we can access that and use
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that Infinite Strength of the human Spirit to heal and reclaim our free
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thought free will it's quite a process there's um a lot more to it um and I've
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got the healing methods that Mark taught me in PTSD time to heal and it's
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available for everybody because it's the same reminder Mark reminded me it's
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within us to heal we've already been blessed with that capacity all along we
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just forgot we have been conditioned for generations to look outside ourselves to big government big Pharma big Tech big
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cult the cult religion to tell us how to live our lives when in fact we've got it right here within when we go within we
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can reclaim that and that is massive giant step towards healing from whatever
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level of abuse um or trauma or grief or
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whatever we've experienced in life we all have the ability to heal from that to lift ourselves from it open neuron
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Pathways in our brain and reclaim our right to live life the way it was
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intended to be lived they place a lot of what you've
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spoken about there the trauma into music videos so I've spoken about
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this in my books and my public talks in my upcoming book I'm highlighting some 198 is pop videos where they actually
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place depictions of the terrible stuff that you and so many others have been through right there in music videos for
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millions of people to see so there's Laura branagan's self-control which was directed by William fredkin who's the
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guy that did The Exorcist there's the video to propaganda song duel there's
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one to Ario Speedwagon uh Can't Fight This Feeling and many others so they're
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hiding away there in pop videos in your view why do they place this stuff in
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things like pop videos and movies and TV shows why do they do that the the same
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reason they did in the Disney movies right from the get-go you know when um we imported the Nazi and fascia the US
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Walt Disney was associated with Warner Von Brun who's ahe of NASA what does um
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you know childhood um Fantasy Land have to do
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with NASA MK Ultra mind control so the subliminals in Disney have been there
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all along these subliminals um which are people are becoming more and more aware
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of now with Disney's complicity in MK ultr mind control um these subliminals
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affect the subconscious mind with our conscious mind is distracted either by
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trauma or whatever when it's distracted um even harmonics you know
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which is why music is used if it's distracted it leaves a subconscious wide
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open to being easily LED and manipulated without a conscious mind filter we just take information and it just pumps it in
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there so these subliminals that come in like that these subliminals that they're
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showing are conditioning the mind to accept this um crime against Humanity as
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something that should be we have all been affected by um subliminals and the
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more we understand neurolinguistic programming the language of the subconscious the more we understand that
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a repetitive media Narrative of you know three times and it goes into the
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subconscious we get programmed and our subconscious is what drives our thoughts
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and ultimately our actions so I mean that's Sacred Space there and we need to
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we need to learn to keep a protection on it and awareness is key knowledge is our
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defense against mind control of all levels and once we have that knowledge we start seeing what you know obviously
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you have that knowledge because you're seeing it in the subliminals and you're seeing how people are being conditioned
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with um that the the the images and the um the repetitive
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narratives many of the music artists themselves the big names we all know household names also Hollywood actors
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very well-known celebrities would have been through similar stuff to what you did because that's how they keep them
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controlled that's how they keep them dancing to their controllers tunes and
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pushing agendas and staying on script so have you rubbed shoulders with any
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recognizable big names that uh come out of the same sort of thing that you were involved with that people would know
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there are many there are some um from my earliest childhood Michael Jackson was
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being groomed in um the cia's MK ultr mind control project the same time I was
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same project um which is Monarch which is the multi-generational um one he was in
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Project Monarch at the same time I was and he grew up just a couple hours from me so um that was one that was coming on
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the OS man of the Mormon Church they were kind of like Pipers to the Mormon
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Church the Osman were um also MK Ultra mind control program the same and aside
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from that I was exposed to many in the country music industry because um I was used in the country music industry as it
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was like a vehicle of uh transporting me around the country so that I would be in
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key locations or throughout the Caribbean or you know wherever they needed me to be the country music
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industry industry provided a cover and a means of travel so I was uh exposed to
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many um entertainers who were MK Ultra uh mind control there and many of which
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were used in the cia's cocaine operations the uh drug operations that
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ran through the music Industries whether it's country or rock or whatever you know it's kind of notorious for um the
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drugs too so they were being used and they were transported that way and um
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again that information is detailed in my um testimony for congress transformation
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of America I remember Fritz springme telling me about the country music
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industry spoke to him many years ago and he said people's image of country is that it's wholesome and All American and
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Christian and full of good family values and he said it's anything but it's an absolute hot bed of satanic activity and
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all these artists that people think are so pure are into the
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most hedonistic stuff you can imagine you know it's like the perfect cover for what really goes on country's
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image it is and U the country music industry was pretty much moved to
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Branson Missouri um in the 80s because it was closer to Bill Clinton's Mina
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cocaine operations the Mina Arkansas cocaine operations so um the more you
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know the more you see how blatant it is right in front of us it's like seeing how Disney groomed the people like
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Britney Spears and the and turned out the Michael Jacksons you know the MK
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Ultra programming that's permeated our entertainment Industries for so long has
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um been used to affect the perceptions
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of the public and also to put them up on a weird pedestal so that people would
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follow what they say as though they know what they're talking about and usually they're just parody program to tell us
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what um political agendas to follow you know I mean it's so absurd and then
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again um I think especially in the United States the past four years we
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have had so much satanic IM imagery so much blood trauma so much horrific
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blatant um rape of children and everything else else going through all
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the main industries from Hollywood to rock to country you know it just it
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permeates those Industries because it puts it right in people's
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faces when you know what you're looking for in terms of the symbolism they use you really do see it everywhere so when
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you realize that things like shattered mirrors represent the shattered compartments of the human mind and these
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different dissociative identities coming through and when you realize they use teddy bears as an emblem for childhood abuse
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and they use things like mon butterflies that you see everywhere because that's pertaining to the Monarch subdivision of
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MK Ultra you see this stuff everywhere it's incredible you watch 100 music
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videos and 90 of them will will contain some of these symbols so it's everywhere
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when you can learn to read the language of symbolism and that's why I feel it's so important that people do people need
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to recognize what's being conveyed by these different icons and motifs and uh
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symbols that they use uh because they really are all
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pervasive absolutely and then you look at some like uh Michael Jackson um in MK
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Ultra masks were used in MK Ultra mind control because they
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depersonalize um they they cause identity disorders they um muffle voices
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and they limit oxygen to the brain necessary for critical analysisfree
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thought and that was you know if people had known what to look for they would have known what I knew when mind control
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mes of virus was Unleashed on the global population it was a a mind control
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device that they have were having everybody wear that was useless in every other way but it certainly took its
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effect especially on the little children who became so confused in their I mean
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children are so pure and innocent already anyway trying to figure out who they are then we we did that and they
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they couldn't see um fate their faces and it messed with their identity and
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then the teachers did through repetitive narrative that it's a gender disorder instead of an identity disorder caused
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by the masks and um were able to bring that all the way into the whole
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transgender movement which is the depopulation aspect of the Mind Control agenda so you know it it it the more you
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know the more you see how this Stacks up and the more you know the more you won't cooperate with it anymore poor Michael
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Jackson had been trying he had been um trying to get information out on this on
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who his abusers are and what mind control was about and to protect the children just screaming for protection
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of the children so they silenced his voice they muffled it and if you remember the when it Michael Jackson
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started wearing the mask he started whispering after that if he was talking
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so you know it was a a strange uh example but the more you know the more
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you see this is very pervasive and in our faces and um awareness is key to
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being able to stop it yeah you mentioned there how masks are used within ritual
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and of course with the whole covid thing uh the public were coerced into wearing
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these bloody masks all the time to depersonalize them and also they were told to stand six feet apart and wash
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their hands the whole time and from what I've heard these are all aspects of Satanic rituals it's what goes on they
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stand six feet apart there and they wear masks so it's as if that whole exercise
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was Satanic ritual abuse going mainstream getting everyone involved in in this stuff without their conscious
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knowledge in so many ways and also to the subconscious mind it subliminally
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says six feet away or six feet under and that means do or die so and that's how
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they use it in Satanic ritual too it's a do or die so that's um there's so many
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aspects of it that that took a harsh toll on people nothing more so than the repetitive me media narrative mask up
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get the injection social distance how many times did we hear that you know everywhere we turned even if we walked
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in a grocery store it came over the intercom system you know it was a a constant barrage of the repetitive
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narrative that programmed people to follow that uh that command and it was a
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very strong um attempt to see how much control they could take over the global
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po ation for the uh New World Order globalist agenda and wow people really
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went for it but they also woke up from it because these um fools made a a very
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strong Mistake by having people shelter at home by Sheltering at home they thought they could get them programmed
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to the TV which I'm sure was definitely a factor too but Sheltering at home
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broke people's routine patterns when you break people's routine patterns it
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causes the neuron Pathways to open it causes the brain to fire in new ways
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like if um if you park your car in the same place all the time and then all of
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a sudden you park it somewhere different when you walk out you you got to look for your car you know so you have to think you have to think different well
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they broke people's routine patterns and it started opening the neuron Pathways ultimately that woke a lot of people up
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to start questioning what in the world was going on you know why um we were
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watching our livelihoods being burnt in the streets and told it's a peaceful
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demonstration you know the nonsense that we were being exposed to so um there's
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uh there's there's aspects of mistakes that they continuously make in their
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desperate attempt to um hurry and you know gain control over the population
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they've totally lost control it's over you know the people have woke up now
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they need to understand fully what mind control entails so that they can defend
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themselves against it going forward and never comply again yeah great point I'd like to come
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back to that when we come to wrap up in the meantime we mentioned Monet
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programming as one of the derivatives of MK Ultra that gets rolled out in entertainment another one is beta sex
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kitten programming and the original archetype for that would appear to have been Marilyn Monroe it's the blond
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bombshell sort of sex kitten look um what can you tell us about beta sex kitten programming and how that plays
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out in society well I I certainly experienced that because I was used as um a
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so-called presidential model um sex slave and Marilyn Monroe was considered
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to be among the first presidential mind control um slaves in in MK Ultra and she
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so MK Ultra was just fullon right there and she became an iconic example of how
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we're all supposed to act you know I mean it was how the the population gets
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conditioned to accept information like that also um back then um Margaret
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Trudeau was a presidential model MK Ultra mind control sax kitten um slave
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and was prostituted to various global leaders so she was another one that was
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out there there's quite a few who have been um in that position and and yes
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Marilyn Monroe was um not only one of the first but she was also one of the
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most publicly known and um and shown
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that really affected Generations of how women are supposedly supposed to
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act and so many music stars have modeled themselves on the Marilyn Monroe look
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Madonna is the obvious one that Springs to mind but Madonna's related to the Trudeau family they're all you know tied
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in by bloodline then there's Cindy laer who was Madonna's rival in the 80s even
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though she rocked exactly the same look and Katy Perry has and and so many other
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music artists so it seems almost like a right of passage for these music stars these female ones to be successful by
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dressing up as Marilyn Monroe at some point in their career and pushing that whole Sexy sort of image I've noticed
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yes and the programming itself will lend towards that too because their their programmers will tell them how to dress
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and what you know how to um do their makeup and and what they're supposed to look like how to walk how to talk and MK
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Ultra mind control has a uh a look and an appearance that's easy to see for
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those of us who've experienced it and know but there's um uh improper blink
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response there's lack of micr muscle movement in the face so the face is just very plastic looking um there's there's
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different ways and then there's the um back in the day in the Maryland Monroe days there is electric stun gun prod
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marks you know which they referred to as beauty marks and you know that that were're also showing up on faces so
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sometimes there's different reasons it's not just that they want to imitate that look um it's more that it's the look of
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MK Ultra mind control enhanced by what their programmers want the image to
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project did you see that video of Katy Perry on stage where one of our eyes
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starts glitching out and she's looking like a robot and people were saying oh you know it must be be a robot because
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of the way this eye is just flickering like this uh it could be a robot or it could be the programming kicking in like
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you've just said do you know the video I'm talking about um I've seen that happening there's there's videos out
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like that and there's you know I mean could be robot okay I'm not going to dismiss that one but also U it could be
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some extreme misfiring in the brain that is causing that to happen because um
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mind control is uh MK ultr mind control the way it affects the the firing of
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neuron Pathways in the brain is so significant you add that to that harmonic stimulation and you've got more
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you know cross um threading going on you know it's cross stimulation um so anything like that
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could be affecting it it it could be um the technological electromagnetic waves um
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in addition to Harmon it could just just be a a total Tangled mess because
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they're going all in with so many different ways of manipulating the brain sure so officially MK Ultra was
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wound up in the 1970s we're told that it ran from 1953 to about
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1973 and the CIA admitted they'd been doing it but they said in the 1970s oh
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we've stopped now it's it's you know it's been discontinued that would have been the
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cover Story in real reality it would have gone underground as a black op off
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the books so would you say it's even more prevalent today than in its 1950s
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to 1970s Heyday absolutely it's it's very very
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prevalent and it's prevalent on the sliding scale because um mind control
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the formula for mind control is is the same as I I said earlier um whether it's
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of an individual or a nation and uh sliding scale is the kind of torturous
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robotic MK Ultra mind control I experienced to information control
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because we all formulate our thoughts our opinions and actions based on what we know we need to know that knowledge
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base has been altered a long time and so there's a a a mass effect of mind
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control that we all need to understand and get over right now now whether it's
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um the indoctrination from the media indoctrination through the school system
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however our information has been controlled however we've been bombarded by the entertainment industry with
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harmonics and subliminals all of that is something that is being used on a global
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population um Additionally the other components of Mind Control are sleep
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food and water deprivation when our brain is starved of
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sleep we're more highly suggestible and easily LED if we're starved of nutrition
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same thing our brains are mostly water if we don't have U proper water then
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that also affects how our brains fire and how we think so these are other
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areas of MK Ultra that have been brought in on a global population I mean look at
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how the nutrition has been taken out of our food and it's been uh bioengineered
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and genetically modified to the point but it's for a point the purpose of
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controlling um the the mind that's all part of the mind control program so we
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need to get nutrition back into our food we need to uh make it where people don't
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have to work a 9 to5 and then a five to n just to put food on the table that has no nutrition anyway you know we're
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working so hard and Round the Clock we're not able to raise the children properly and we're not getting enough
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sleep and rest so all these aspects are enforced on society too and um MK Ultra
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certainly hasn't gone away it has advanced and crept into our lives on so
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many levels that we need to understand all those components we need to get fluoride out of the water now you know
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we need to start um being able to nourish our bodies so it nourishes our
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brain so that we are able able to think clearer the uh free thought and getting
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those neuron Pathways to fire is uh is crucial for all of
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us you mentioned the Epstein little black book and uh Revelations about
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Jeffrey Epstein and the blackmail operation he was running and now we got the whole P didy debacle going on
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there's all these allegations against Diddy and they've been all over the mainstream news so it's got to the point
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where there's no excuse for anyone to not know about all this sorted depravity
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that goes on you can't write it off anymore so do you think these events are
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going to be enough to force the general public to confront
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what's been going on or if not what more is it going to take because with all
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this stuff we're hearing about Diddy and and what went on at his freak offs and his mansions and stuff I mean what more
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proof does anyone need that these kind of activities go on and they invol involve high level politicians and
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celebrities I mean what is it going to take to ever uh bring this stuff to an
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end and put it fully into the spotlight of scrutiny so that it just can't
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continue on that underground basis anymore an absolute knowledge and having
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the conscious awareness of what mind control and tals then we understand why
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this has been done well how it got so big and crept in for so long there's a a
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handful of of Puppet Masters at the top that are manipulating the whole po
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population that's their intention they aren't like us they don't like us and um
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they're they're manipulating people so we're seeing that now we're seeing how
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they have used these blackmail operations and then we don't even know who was on Epstein Island because they
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never released that list yet you know it's we know that it happened but we
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still don't know exactly who I think the most important question is rather than
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who who is holding those black mail tapes because that is going to be key to
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unraveling this whole mess and when we wake up to that reality that we share
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this planet with some very dark negative energy force perpetration ERS um then we
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realize you know they fear us they fear the vast numbers of us they have fear
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they fear that we are going to wake up and understand what mind control is about so that we don't comply with them
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anymore this knowledge is finally getting out there I've been speaking out for over 35 years on mind control and
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healing from it and um it's been a a an
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amazing process seeing people people start to get the information and wake up but we got a long way to go right now
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there's a lot of people whose eyes are opening and they're they're seeing this now and saying what in the world is
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going on they need the last bits of information on mind control so they can
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defend themselves against it going forward which is why I appreciate so much this opportunity today speaking
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with you to get this information out further it takes all of us sharing the
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information with each other um eye to eye heart to heart soul to soul to get
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it out there because the controlled media is not going to tell us you know it's up to us we have to arm each other
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with this truth that is happening and that is what's going to make all the difference in the
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world well that's right that's why I do it I've been doing this for about 15 16
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years but nowhere near as long as you and obviously you've had a lifetime embroiled in all this stuff and there's
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many other great researchers and authors and filmmakers that put this stuff out there we're all doing the best we can so
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are you optimistic that ultimately this message is going to hit home in the way it needs to because I think a lot of
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people might hear this stuff and it's so horrific or it sounds so fantastic that
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they might just shut down because they don't know how to deal with it in much the same way as an MK Ultra slave might
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you know the mind just shuts down because it thinks I can't cope with this information I don't know where to file
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it and and what to do with it in my life so are you ultimately hopeful that we
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are going to get to where we need to be if we all just keep trucking along keep hammering home the information are we
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going to get there absolutely it's happening and I'm so excited to see it after all these years of of um of
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speaking out to see people reach this point now and um for those who have
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difficulty accepting the information it's like I I totally understand that people are so good-natured it's hard for
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them to realize and wrap their brains around the reality that um there's such
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a dark agenda that's been imposed on Humanity when I began speaking out in
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1990 people had no point of reference for the information they didn't know there was a swamp in Washington DC they
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didn't know drug and human trafficking was funding this globalist agenda or that the pedophile agendas mind control
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agenda they didn't know any of that so I considered it seeds of Truth planted
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because truth is like that once you you know we can't wake up for other people
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but we can help wake them up just by living the um awareness ourselves being
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living that light um and and telling that truth and considering it seeds of
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Truth planted eventually that's going to Blossom and they're going to see it eventually they'll be ready for it and
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in the meantime I encourage everyone pick up a pen and paper and start writing out what is your fear what is
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your trauma what is immobilizing you and then write it out it that that opens the
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neuron Pathways it it stops it from bringing us down and leaving us suggestible opens the ne on Pathways and
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then add a solution if you add a if you force yourself to think of a solution to
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the problems and negativity you just mentioned then it forces the brain to
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fire in new ways again it lifts you out of that Darkness so to speak and it opens more neuron Pathways and um and it
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allows for a Clear Vision forward so that we can stop being immobilized and
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we can start taking back our lives the way they're intended to be lived this writing by hand if we put it back in the
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school system well that alone will stop the indoctrination of our children it
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will help them learn how to think again instead of what to think so something as
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simple as this Brain Hat that Mark Phillips taught me we pick up a pen and
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a paper not a keyboard a key uh that doesn't do the same thing we need to get
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away from technology you know and and kind of get away from our devices and
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get out of nature more get that sun on our skin feel the wind in our hair you
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know we need to feel the Earth underneath our feet that helps us reground all these things are going to
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help us be able to deal with the reality that we need to face in order to
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effectively protect our children stop this constant barrage of trauma and
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Terror that Humanity has been under for so long now and um that will ultimately
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be our Saving Grace it's our Victory it's where we win they lose they can't
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they can't manipulate us anymore and uh we're we're we're heading there real fast now I'm I'm I'm very excited at
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this at this point I think we passed critical mass it's too late we just need to start claiming our Victory and wake
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up the rest yeah that's great to hear Donald Trump's back in office is it going to
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make the blindest bit of difference or do you not to answer political questions oh I'm excited on that aspect
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of things that um the power is being handed back to the people it's not about
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A New World Order anymore um the the leaders of the New World Order when
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President Trump was elected said okay that's it New World Order is done because he refuses to cooperate with
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their agenda he refuses to cooperate with m control back in the 80s when I
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was being used on a White House Pentagon level they feared him back then because he adamantly opposed drug and human
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trafficking across open borders he adamantly opposed MK Ultra mind control
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all the way back then so um as a person for what he um stands for morally that
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is an absolutely beautiful thing that we are not cooperating with the new world order on a political level but above all
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that it opened people's eyes to what has been going on how we've been
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manipulated um for so long at the same time that's not the answer to everything
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because we need to go within we need to realize our own power it's up to each and every one of us to reclaim that we
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don't need to be relying on big government to live our lives for us it's
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up to us you know it's like you can't drain the swamp from the top down it has to be drained from the bottom up by all
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of us taking responsibility for our own lives and making sure that we have
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Justice restored and um the the free thought is uh reclaimed and retained
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that our children aren't indoctrinated in the schools anymore so you know the
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on a political end um it's been uh something that that people need
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to see but it doesn't mean we religiously follow political leaders I
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am not going to go get a McDonald's hamburger just because president Trump you know Pro what the heck you know
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people need to think free on every issue they need to stand up for the things
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that mean something to them you know it's it's not about politics anymore in
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other words it's about each and every one of us remembering who we are and why
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we're here that's what's going to make the difference and the fact that President Trump doesn't comply with the
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new world order doesn't mean that we're not going to unite globally anyway when
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we reclaim our our Free Will strength of spirit that's where Humanity naturally
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unites we've got globalization on so many economic levels and just the the
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technology and the way that we can travel and you know there's there's other ways but it's not going to be the
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new world order but if we think politics is going to stop that no this is
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evolutionary it's our Evolution against mind control knowledge is our defense
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and it's our evolutionary issue so it doesn't happen again just because Harari
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or whatever his name is said that the new world orders done now when Trump was elected doesn't mean that it is that
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means they're going to pop up over here just like MK Ultra did it's going to go underground and pop up over here it's
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like when the Adolf Hitler called it the New World Order back in World War II and
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hear it popped back up in the United States you know so um we need to we need
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to be aware that no one is going to fix our problems for us it's up to us and
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it's like a an evolutionary process that we're all in right now and we better we
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better wise up and um stop it from happening anymore right damn straight all right
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Kathy awesome conversation Great Value to this really appreciate you coming on
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and sharing your uh views on things and your comments just remind viewers where
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they can get hold of your book is it available on Amazon transformation or have they banned it and are there any
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other projects you'd like to point people to that you're involved with my books are available through my
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website at transformation.com that's TR n
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cyen form.com um all of my books transformation of America excess denied
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for reasons in National Security which tells um marks in my journey through the
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corrupted Justice and mental health system to help my daughter who was a political prisoner um um and PTSD time
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to heal the healing methods Mark taught me they're all available through my website and every one of them is
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available on Audible I read them myself so people um are assured of the
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Integrity of information I encourage people to um to get the books that way
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because the free ebooks that are made available are um always reported as
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altered and they're pirated they're just stolen anyway and then the information has changed so go to the source and make
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sure that um you have the absolute truth because that's what we're needing right now truth makes us
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free sure well it's amazing what you were able to survive and come through uh
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miraculous and uh thank you for sharing all this knowledge you know it's a beautiful thing so once again thanks for
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coming on today thank you very much I appreciate it y