American Opera House Oddity History

American Opera House Oddity History

Join Aurelian & I as we explore some obscure North American opera houses..most of which no longer stand…some of which succumbed to fire…twice! I’d say history truly is stranger than fiction if I didn’t already believe it to be fiction.

The article “American Opera House Oddity History” from soundQuality.org, published on February 6, 2025, delves into the peculiar histories of various North American opera houses, many of which no longer exist, often due to fires—some experiencing multiple blazes. The piece is a collaborative exploration by Aurelian and the author, examining structures that showcased “old world” architecture, suggesting the presence of advanced societies in North America only a few centuries ago.

One highlighted example is the Alliance Opera House in Alliance, Ohio, which had a seating capacity of 1,000 during a period when the town’s population was merely 4,000, raising questions about the demand and purpose of such a large venue in a small community. The article also references the English Hotel and Opera House in Indianapolis, completed in 1880 and demolished in 1948 to make way for a J.C. Penney store as part of urban renewal efforts.

Additionally, the piece touches upon the Astor Opera House in New York, infamously associated with the “Astor Place Riot,” also referred to as the “Massacre Opera House” at “Disastor Place.” The article includes a transcript of a discussion between the author and Aurelian, where they express skepticism about the traditional historical narratives of the 1800s in North America, particularly the portrayal of cultural sophistication and the prevalence of grand entertainment venues like opera houses during that era.

The article is accompanied by images and a video link for readers interested in a more in-depth exploration of the topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ere9dwXhVA

Athens, Ohio. Distinctly “old world” architecture. Evidence of ‘mud flooded’ society pre-existing our present modern day, but by only a few hundred years.

Alliance Opera House – seated 1,000 at a time when Alliance’s population was 4,000.

https://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2010/05/the-collapse-of-marchands-opera-house.html

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Here in Indianapolis we had the English Hotel and Opera House; finished construction in 1880 and was torn down in 1948. It was torn down to build a JC Pennys due to urban renewal.

My city, Leuven Belgium, has an “operahouse” which holds all the alarmbells : There was a first one, there was a design competition and ofcourse a fire and renovations :

Arcanum, Ohio Opera House

Astor Opera House, NY

“Massacre Opera House” at “Disastor Place”

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http://anengineersaspect.blogspot.com/2010/05/the-collapse-of-marchands-opera-house.html

It’s reaching; not conclusion and maybe just barely evidentiary at all. Unclear if this is a steel beam. However, it is interesting the sheer number of opera houses that were collapsed, strangely burned, unable to persist through any ages…almost as if means of cultural / musical advancement itself were under attack.

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Transcript

all right we are back with another oldw world live explor ation my Tuesday
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regular live broadcasts so make sure you put that in your calendar for future
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weeks um I have the pleasure of having Lucy aelan join me here again
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with his wit and wisdom let's bring him on aelan thanks for being here my
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pleasure owwe thanks for the invite and it's great to be back on your wonderful Channel again I appreciate that and I
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always enjoy your uh your Insight um and we've talked in the past about uh the
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Opera Houses in uh in Middle America I guess you could say and all around the continent and how it doesn't really uh
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fit the historical narrative that we've been given so I thought I'd put together a file and we could sort of peek into
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some of these maybe more obscure Opera Houses looking forward to it I'll just
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say a few quick hellos Kathy in there saying hello to both of
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us Brian Graham yeah um analog Oracle
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old world underworld good to see you old world
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underworld Boston shoving stuff always nice in the comments section of my videos I appreciate your comments Boston
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always detective Greenley himself we're getting a few more in I'm
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not going to do a huge roll call I'll try to get to a few more but sometimes it's hard for me to focus on both comments and the uh slideshow so I'll
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try to get into the content and uh we'll start with uh showing people your
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channel again the link is in the description if you're not familiar with aan Channel um fantastic array of topics
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that he gets into like I said very knowledgeable and very uh interesting content so there's a lot for you to get
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into if you haven't checked out his work or even if you have I would
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say okay ready let's just dive into the Opera Houses shall we let's go so the
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problem I have is you know the his historical Narrative of the 1800s in uh
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North America never really had this Opera House narrative as a part of it it
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was always you know pulling yourself up by your bootstraps just getting by um if
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there was any sort of entertainment it was gudy and kind of rude and not very sophisticated is my impression of of
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history in the 1800s I don't know what about yours no I I age completely because of
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the fact that it seems like it's layered it's retracted and it is revised
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relentlessly and even in the uh the brief time frame that I was with the last University I was with I think there
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were probably about six major revisions from the 1880s onwards and I'm not
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talking about simple revisions where we're respelling someone's name or there was a slightly different interpretation
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of events we're completely reordering things like with a lot of these economic situations we were talking about last
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time and that's just for starters that's interesting how the academic world can take such Liberties I
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find that uh very interesting well the the official response is because we're learning more
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about what happened in the past and we're somehow able to know more detail
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the further from it we get don't ask me to explain it that's the official response sounds a lot like dinosaurs to
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me million years ago so yeah where's my brosaurus yeah we're just getting way more accurate at uh picking out the
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details with our all our technology I guess that's the uh that's what they want us to believe maybe indeed indeed
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okay we'll get to the uh the content the first one here is in uh Alliance Ohio and I'm going to sort of rely on on some
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of your knowledge of geography as well um you being American knowing more I'm sure about uh this area of uh the
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continent are you familiar with Alliance Ohio at all it's in uh it's in that part
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of Ohio that's very intriguing where uh you're really you're just west of the Appalachians you're coming off of New
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York and it tends to be an overlooked part of Ohio you know everybody thinks about Cleveland and so on and so forth
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but there are some very interesting sites in and among there especially in this town called Athens who would have
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thk it right Athens you know because we we always have the same names all over the place but yeah it's it's quite
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intriguing in that particular area it's overlooked but much like the Midwest there's all kinds of sites there that
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are very unique and very distinctly old world yeah I'm going to say hi to Steph here Babylon Fox and then Jack is in
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here as well always an interesting commenter Jack you keep it clean tonight Mr whisper
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Jack um okay so this is an alliance Ohio I'll give you some timeline um I have narrative attached to all these
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structures this is uh 1868 they built this thing in Alliance and uh well let's
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just get to the next slide this is all could find if you're if you're seeing a rendering it's because I couldn't find a
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photograph of it being intact this would be the reason why now in
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1886 this thing suddenly collapsed at 4:30 p.m. on a Wednesday while no one
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was hurt this Photograph was taken 15 minutes later it just arbitrarily
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collapsed and uh can you zoom in a little bit let's see if we can get an idea or at least
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you know something of the the
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composition I mean did did someone just build like a dollhouse and step on it is that what happened here Giants it must
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have been a giant that that is really that is bizarre that's a heck of a collapse I
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must say that's a lot of debris as well so when I when I did the last
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exploration on state capitals they have a legitimate what they say is a
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fabricated photo of the Wisconsin state capital in Madison Wisconsin collapsing
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from the 1930s they officially announc it was an April Fool's joke and yet it
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looks a lot like this image you know I mean you're seeing all these how shall we say unique possibilities with physics
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here kind of like watching one of the Avengers movies yeah interesting interesting
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what's also interesting too is we have 15 minute this photograph is taken okay so let's let's dissect this a little bit
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in 1886 they quickly rushed the photographer who apparently takes a
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while to set up and they all were able to pose within 15 minutes of the collapse of the structure you'd think
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the smoke or the dust would be settling still not the smoke we're not there yet you
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know yeah it's it's just another one of those things where obviously whatever they're telling you you know they can't
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it can't be true it just cannot be true no it's not possible and that's that's
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what I always say that's what we're doing here is we're just poking holes in a bucket that's already swiss cheese basically there's just continues to be
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holes even even this this apparently this was made to seat over a thousand people at a time when about 4,000 people
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lived in Alliance Ohio well I guess you needed to get you know one out of every four people in that one building because
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everybody was mad about Opera right after the Civil War yeah right after this war 1867-68 also a two-year build
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time on that thing this is what three stories here's another photo of it before we move on from Alliance Ohio
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from the other angle see and there there you get that detail in it where you can just see the the hints behind that
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construction something looks very very bizarre with this image when we when we
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look at the decorations on each of the windows and I mean clearly it looks like block construction down there at that
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balcony or the entryway but none this is making any
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sense I mean you know it's just it's another reminder of those uh collapsed buildings from said Civil War where it
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looks like someone was cutting them with a laser almost I mean you see that on the top floor what the heck that's a collapse that's a random collapse what
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yeah that's uh it looks like a pretty sturdy building to me you know that or it would have been I don't see how it
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would collapse right I mean you know like it could take a an F4 tornado Direct Hit
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and it wouldn't take anything off it but it just randomly collapsed sorry well poor Alliance Ohio loses
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their Opera House in 1886 we move on we move on um to Arcanum Ohio still in Ohio
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one of my favorite old world States actually Ohio um this is the only slide I have of
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Arcanum Ohio now this is granted this is a combination City Hall opera house probably throwing a post office in there
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because you can see the population um this is just an arbitrary date I set to this 1900 there's just over thousand
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people living there this would definitely be said to have been built um before
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1900 let's look closer and here's that question I always have let's say we wanted to build this
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today for the current population what would it take who could do it how long
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would it take yeah yeah it's ridiculous right and then it actually still stands but not at
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not to the same degree that it it once did let's let's dissect the difference here as well so here it is in the modern
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day so we we've got some uh Tower demolition
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here uhhuh these two guys yep they and that's something I know you've seen on
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all the cour houses you know they they always seem to want to do that it's like oh those those Scrappy Towers they built
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they just weren't going to last so we had to pull those down and really you know what it is they're just diminishing
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the emotional impact of the structure yeah yeah and uh and they'll say it was
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done for the in the per for the yeah for safety right they'll say it was at risk of falling maybe they'll say a brick
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fell on a passer by or nearby and out of necessity they decapitated these structures that's common common part of
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the narrative that I found in my research you know it drives me up a wall when H you've got this incredible Palace
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that is perfect today but then they're saying right after we built it it was falling apart like the Iowa state
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capital they said they had to replace the main Foundation
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stone three years three years after they placed it right
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right yeah anyway Arcanum Ohio um they still have the building I'm sure it's not being used as an opera house in any
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way in the modern day um not making any sense so I threw it in there um don't have any information on the construction
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of the building if if there it was available I would have found it I've done a bit of research for this file so
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if you don't see a build date it's not because I didn't look we move on to New York there's several
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from New York in here the aster opera house oh there's that name again you've heard that name before have you the
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asers just just a few times Mrs Aster was safe when it fell down
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right yeah very early timeline on this one too like they got rid of this in
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1890 and being built in the 1840s like this is looks like a Roman you know
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there it is in before they tore it tore it down we'll be told this is a pretty solid building they they seem to be a
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little bit more open with uh Banning things on New York you know New York is the New York City is the first place
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they say reached population of half a million in the United States and so they seem to think that well you know yeah
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it's it's no problem we built it in the 1830s the 1840s no worries yeah and you know for that reason I almost omitted
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these New York Opera Houses just because uh um because of that because you could
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easily explain it away anyone who wants to counter the the old world narrative uh maybe it doesn't have as much teeth
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because New York is New York right but um there's several in here and they definitely fit the same pattern so so I
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definitely kept them in there it uh there it is again with the awning
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incorporated into the structure oh yes awnings and great
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advertising that they had in the 1800s oh yeah I'll go to some of the narrative here and then I'll I'll come come back
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to some of the visuals so there was a riot let me just show you the riot this is a rendering of the riot in
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1849 this is just two years now after this place was said to have
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opened trying to remember what this Riot was about was this a labor Riot was this a uh anti-mexican War Riot or what I you
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know I I should have dug a little deeper into the narrative I didn't um so I'm not completely sure but that should be
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an easy wikkipedia search for anyone who wants to uh look a little closer what I did is I snipped some of the after
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effect of the right so it became known as the massacre opera house uh at disaster place there's a
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nice play on words say the aster disaster you got to be kidding
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me I love when they do this they play play with the words or the Folly it's always somebody's Folly and the place
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gets a bit of a it's like they're uh foreshadowing the impending demolition
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with this kind of n narrative oh my gosh so anyway they they sell it off in
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1853 so it's not an oper house for very long it's only got like sixe shelf life as an opera house and then it becomes a
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library um then they rename it Clinton Hall which is what we're seeing those photographs um but eventually it gets
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torn down in 1890 and uh I'll just show you a few of the visuals from the renderings from the
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interior of this structure okay I couldn't resist I had to look up what heck this was about I
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thought it might have been something with the no-name party but actually they're saying that this was all from an
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American Shakespearean actor who had a feud with a British actor and it was the
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cause of the riot at the aster place in 1849 that was the cause nothing so
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serious yes one actor being jealous of another actor and uh you you get this hilarious account of uh they they
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deployed 350 militia 100 policemen obviously armed with nothing more than muskets and ba that's right because what
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else did they have then 450 against 10,000 riers and yet somehow they
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managed to crush the riot despite being supremely outnumbered well over 10 to one well over 20 to
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one well that's interesting glad you looked that up that's a little bit the
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story is just hilarious this is in the 1840s right in uh New York oh it reminds
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me of the uh Gangs of New York I think it that's even before when that movie was supposed to have been set in yeah I
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mean yeah that was supposedly because of draft riots in New York you know all these riots going on in New York so
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again this makes you wonder was there something else distinctly going on that was actually causing these riots and
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this is just a way to well you know we had these actors that didn't like each other you know so they they had this big
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Riot why would anybody Riot on behalf of an actor back in the 1840s because they loved their Opera and
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their plays clearly clearly oh gez look at the decoration on I mean amazing 1847
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they're building stuff like this in New York City come on love it I love it but
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we're gonna jump forward to Boston now um the old Boston Opera House 1909 is
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when they tell us this one was built now that's a beauty Boston should have been proud of
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that yeah I'd imagine they were I would hope there would have been an um uproar
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when they tore this down in the 50 s I'm G to guess another victim of urban renewal given the time frame absolutely
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it's a safe bet I would say this is in the 30s the bostonians filling up the
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one two three four five six seven one two I'm have to recount sorry about
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seven or eight levels of uh seating in this thing that is just incredible imagine
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going to a movie theater like that and having that kind of experience just with the interior and acoustics wow yeah yeah
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it must have been something else I I would have been picketing in the streets they probably I think they did a lot of
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this stuff inconspicuously too I bet you it was just sort of underhanded and you probably would have just found out one day that they either tore down the opera
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house or it was in process or in progress you know I wonder about some of that it was just done before people
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could even register that it was being done a lot of those demolitions well you know we're and
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we're seeing the same details that we see in all those great Fox Theaters and every other Grand theater that we've
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come across where you see these arches these columns these pillars that are so well decorated and you're just asking
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what what was the requirement for that at that time and I mean every single
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balcony just the oh look it looks like uh we got our favorite carou on the front of every single balcony you see
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that that uh that classic symbol that we see everywhere yep it sure
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is so making you wonder does that is that where you know maybe was that for
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leaders was that for somebody who was speaking did that have a different representation to it you know trying to step back and realize what the original
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intention of the building was and then you have a couple of big names that probably after the fact who
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knows maybe maybe not the the writing looks a bit simple compared to everything around it so I always wonder
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about that moart VAR Qui put that up there we need moer it's an oper house
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yeah it's incredible though it like oh man it just it it kills me looking at some of this stuff but it needs to be
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shared and that's why I do it and uh I don't I want to mention as well to anyone watching this if you're hearing any sort of background noise it is quite
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cold where I am today and I've got that you can hear the furnace in the background so couldn't do anything about it um just trying to stay warm up here
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in Northern Canada some people complain about weird small little noises you when I'm doing
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my recordings so I'm not in a professional studio
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All Right Moving On Moving On who is yeah who is right yeah so that's 1957
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these are like the last photographs before they looted it too I think they looted a lot of these places for sure um
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and then they tore it down we'll move on we'll move on to the
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Pikes Opera House in Cincinnati Cincinnati an amazing old
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world city I was blown away when I when I covered that City in my video but uh
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1850s again a very early time period for them to be so dedicated to building an
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opera house according to my you know perspective on History anyway unless I'm
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completely off yeah I I'm I remember looking into
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Cincinnati and I mean they've got some incredible structures I'm trying to remember the name of the church there that they built even before this and I
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mean it's still around there today yeah I mean and I got a lot a lot about backlash on the Cincinnati
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exploration so obviously uh it's a well it was all built by Germans you see
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Germans who came in and they they're responsible for all this it's those Germans again great yeah they had like
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20 breweries and they all were like massive brick
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castles well actually I think you're kind of seeing it right there on the right with the uh The Columns right
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there I think that's that might be the church that's the church you're talking about oh I think I know the one you mean yeah yeah yeah this uh this incredible
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Greco Roman building built by Catholics again you know how that goes I like this uh drawing we go so so
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this the great Cincinnati fire happened in 1866 for those that don't know um and
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it took the Pikes opera house with it so this is just a um rendering of a street
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scene of what life would have been like supposedly before that great fire in Cincinnati
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and incredible but not to fret after the fire they rebuilt it and two years later
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this is apparently the new Opera House in the foreground here you know and there were
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unbelievable funds after the Civil War you know everybody had lots of funds that were apparently refunded by the
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federal government they were just floating in dough rebuild as fastly as fast fast as
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you can right I guess this one this castle looking building behind also is rebuilt in that two-year period maybe
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everything along the stretch or I don't I don't know it's silly it's silly so I'm look at the interior of
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this the SEC so this would be the second generation Pike Sofer house the second generation yeah or the first you know
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who knows yeah yeah well exactly exactly we just got a couple couple incidences
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here this is interesting the statues stand out to me um not something I would have expected and uh seems a little
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different than some of the other Opera Houses I've seen could if you could zoom in on the
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uh the statue displays on the left of the screen there that those three statues let's see how well we can see those so focusing a little bit on the
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the symbols that we have here it's almost as though we have something that's completely different I mean from
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a distance you might think well you know they're paying homage to the pantheon of Greek and Roman deities but whenever you
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look closer you always see something that seems to be an exception from that and I think I'm seeing that here now of
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course we don't have the detail to see that and we're probably not supposed to but you get the hint and I don't think
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it's my imagination that we're looking at something that's way different than what we would traditionally associate with those Pantheon of deities from the
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Roman Greco time frame yeah I would say these are two female figures if I had to
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guess yeah that's what I'm thinking and then they're holding is that you think that's a torch each I mean it looks like
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a torch but who knows what it could be I mean maybe it's something else entirely I mean yeah first impression it's a
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torch but maybe they're holding uh some sort of something we'd associate with Ori fasy I don't know yes yeah it's
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interesting here's this is a rendering I don't think that helps much but uh funny that they they captured
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that detail though in the rendering isn't it yes it is yeah and they look very torch-like in the rendering but
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they did not look torch like in the image they look much more conical in the in the rendering for sure like a torch
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would rather than rather than here or they look more slender and long yeah so
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I mean I I don't know I mean yeah could be could be narrow torches but we just don't know on the right side too yeah
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yeah oh yeah you're right yeah interesting interesting anyway there's no way we can know because this thing
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also burned down in 1903 naturally two two pikes Opera Houses
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both burned down what do you know just like all those lovely hotels down in New Orleans that
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went up in smoke yeah yeah exactly well we'll look at a few more
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now I think this is supposed to be from the first fire I think 1866 if we look closely they're trying to depict
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something there's there steam engine fire hydrant fire this is the technology
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at the time trying to put out a fire in a five six story building you got yeah
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it's an all two common story I'm afraid yeah it's it's comical but it's it's fun to illustrate that's for sure this I
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would suspect would be from the second one they'll tell us but who knows Cincinnati beautiful old world
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city I don't know what it's like nowadays but uh I would love to have visited Cincinnati 130 years ago would
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have been interesting yeah I wonder what we really would have seen if we could have gone back 130 years I really do
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wonder what the world was like yeah yeah we move over to closer to the West
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Coast with Denver the T Taber Grand Opera House in Denver built in 1881 because there was so many silver
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and gold miners that they needed a beautiful opera house to entertain themselves with and that would be the
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narrative yeah well don't forget about all the cowboys that were going around out there you know Cowboys are known to love
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Opera yeah I like this one my lunchbox
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change my channel name okay another look at the Taber
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Grant another amazing old world city this thing gets torn down in uh 1967
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again a victim to urban renewal
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unfortunately yeah it's conflict fire and urban renewal seems to take care of everything in the United States I don't
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know what they thought they were going to renew here like this is a this should be a don't touch you know there's there
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like no way we can do better let's just leave it up you know there's no genuine
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I can't see how a genuine um attitude toward tearing this down holds any water
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with any sort of rationale for replacing it with something better didn't didn't you watch the
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brutalist don't you know that brutalist architecture is very very Advanced and aesthetically pleasing so listen they
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had every reason to tear this building down for urban renewal we needed good brutalist architecture lots of glass
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lots of functional box-like buildings why would anybody want to look at something beautiful and be inspired by
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it you know I tried to do a comparison with old
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Architects and new new Architects so I looked up like you know some of the top architects of our Modern Age and it goes
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through some of their works and it's all just hideous in to my eye hideous brutalist and some of them are weirdly
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curved and strangely shaped you know strange architecture in the modern day that's for
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sure no I mean every time we look into one of these I mean look at that figure right there in the middle yes it's quite
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striking every time we see one of these we always see very unique symbols we see a very interesting display and this is
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supposed to be a theater or an opera house or both yeah and we always get one of these Grand displays almost like this
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is some sort of incredible altar now at least that's a weed associate it with
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with all the the religious connotations but what if it's something else
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entirely yeah we don't know we don't know this is I think these were repurposed and for a different uh a
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different people a different civilization what what gets me is the difficulty in constructing these coming
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from the construction background and and trying to Envision
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finishing all of this in the upper reaches at a time when they didn't have scissor lifts
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you know they didn't have a scaffold that you could easily assemble and disassemble everything was just like it
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really really boggles the mind when you when you put that together um from my perspective that's that's what you know
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that's what I that's why I have such a problem with the narrative you know well it never it
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there's no real way to hold it up or to justify it yeah when when you really start to try to do that analysis with
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the logistics with the acquisition of resources namely time you know everybody
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always says well we always had money yeah you know that that's why we can't do it now we don't have any money now
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but here here's $4 trillion dollar Let's Go fool around in the Middle East again you know if we're in the United
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States yeah and then this is supposed to be Hilt in 1881 in in uh in Denver and
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uh I would wager that most of these people don't have running water in their abodes that were said to have been
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building these places the over-the-top opulence that we're looking at compared
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to what we're told regular everyday life was did not does not Jive at
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all no it does not I mean there's no real way to justify how they were doing
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this at that time unless what we understand the reality of their existence is very different than what it
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really was and they in that's why we we do what
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we do really well that's why I do what I do and I think you're along the same lines I know you are just just ask
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questions like they they never really wanted us to ask questions in school just to as you're told right
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Prett much or just you know just uh say what you're supposed to say when you're supposed to say it yeah just spit it
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back out Harrisburg Pennsylvania grand opera house that's pretty Grand and what what
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do we have a year on this image that they've associated with it I have here this one
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uh 1876 here um opened in 1876 burns down
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in 1907 so what I did is I added the population at the close to the time that these were constructed just for context
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on the slideshow so we were looking at about 30,000 people living in um
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Harrisburg Pennsylvania at the time they built this Opera House in
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1876 and you know last 30 years 31 years
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I'm I'm just signing you you see all the signs with this one you know right down to having
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all these very elaborate polls that oh well you know Tesla wasn't there yet so
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yeah yeah yeah just want to say hi to mark one of my uh moderators in the chat make sure
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you keep close eye for trolls too oh yeah they're they're
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everywhere they come out from under their Bridge from time to time right poor thing Burns to the ground in
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1907 but we didn't have a photographer on 15 minute standby this time in Harrisburg did we not not during the The
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Blaze I have a couple from uh celebrating the destruction apparently postcard that's strange too why you have
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a postcard of the the burning the destruction of the Opera House why would you why wouldn't you have a postcard of
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the Opera House intact it's almost like an to the destruction process that is
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the strangest thing I think I I have seen I mean it's it's almost as strange as the aaries where we're arranging
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skeletons as trophies and it's almost as strange as
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all The Monuments we have to famines across the land there's all kinds of
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monuments to famines it's really bizarre yeah interesting an homage to to a
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disaster and um sorrow almost and yeah I think that that definitely is a part of
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their modus operandi to control our perception keep us in the dumps maybe
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but uh are you guys in the chat you guys watching noticing a pattern here with this
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slideshow aelan have you been paying attention have you noticed the pattern so far no I don't see any patterns I don't
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know what I'm talking about completely random I I just saw some really gnarly
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buildings you know and they're on and I don't know why we're here questioning this I mean what's going on why do we
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even care why care about buildings that that are gone right yeah oh man it was
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funny because when I started doing the research on this file I looked up a couple and it was the same story like
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the first three I looked at like what and so so I kept looking and what do you know as and this is this is what you're
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seeing here is the this The Narrative repeats continues to repeat itself another yet
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another postcard of um so it was it was the grand opera house and the business
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section of Harrisburg Pennsylvania that took the brunt of the fire in
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1907 fire that was caused by questionable circumstances and a fire department that was unprepared to
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respond and so on and so forth interesting that they put this in the
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postcard for fires too right they get the cigar they're trying to imply you know nothing was fireproof back then all
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you needed was somebody with a cigar that the Cherry dropped and you know how common was it at the time I know what it
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was it was like Tomlinson Hall in Indianapolis Indiana where a pigeon picked up a lit cigar and dropped it and
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that's what caused the fire that's my pigeons I swear that's that's my favorite one that's my favorite
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one we'll move on though we'll move on from Harrisburg over to Hillsboro Ohio
36:22
never heard of Hillsboro but they did have an opera house well how could you expect any town
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to do without one especially a town with 4,000 people why not right 1895 they decide to
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throw up this opera house next to these other buildings that look exactly the same as the Opera House apparently yeah
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of course and then it still stands actually and you know it was an opera
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house and you know it was Bells because you have this right here yeah looking very after the fact
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yeah and then just you know it's just like when you get that foundation stone or the Cornerstone or whatever they want
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to call it you know they got every name for it but you know you always see some schlocky date or some schlocky title on
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it you know so we we could do this very elaborate brick Arrangement but uh for the name yeah just just kind of get it
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on there and it's good enough here yeah it's uh it's funny cuz
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you even see these types of buildings drawn in cartoons as well this is a a good this Steph
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commented here like so many other things there is no historical stories of American opera singers I studied Opera
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in college seven years of studying Opera no mention of famous singers who was
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performing maybe they all perished in that nasty riot at the uh Aster
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oper it was like the uh I'm just thinking of that again the scene from Gangs of New York where uh where in the
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beginning if you recall when Liam Nissan's crew goes up against uh
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um oh man I know his name Escapes Me Now the the Daniel de Lewis yes one of the
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best actors of all time sorry um that's what it reminds me of
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that's what I'm envisioning now is these two but they're fighting over um what was it again sorry yeah well they're
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they're fighting over who was better The American actor or the British actor you
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know oh man that's good that's good yeah okay we'll move on we got to
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move a little quicker here we're we still got lots of file here so um Holio
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Massachusetts massachu oh Massachusetts I I get grilled over that one too sometimes um
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1878 to 1967 urban renewal strikes again it looks
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like yeah look at the very the circular aspect of this roof really jumps out at
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me how difficult that would be have been to construct in 18 78 yeah it seems like
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they could just pop out any kind of rotunda building that they wanted at any scale in the 1800s but now it's a rather
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tall order there's a reason you don't see this on most structures and even if we try it it won't be ve perfectly
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circular like this they'll be like it'll be faceted you know very difficult to uh
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duplicate that type of construction oh my gosh look at this
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again urban renewal took it from us let's uh let's take a Qui if you don't mind take a quick closer look above the
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Arches there some of the symbols there if we can see those here yeah oh look
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there it is it's that that same symbol whether you want to call it the leaf symbol or you know the I've heard
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different terms for it the sea shell but you see that symbol all over the place as well but there's no official meaning
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for it just like the carou they call it a carou but there's no meaning assigned to it drives me up a wall it's got to be
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the energetics you know it's got to be something yeah cuz they're all over the
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place yeah yeah and they're they're amazing too there's an energy to the formation the shape there's something
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there that draws you in I think so this is so these two apparently
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went up at the same time the opera house here on the right and then this is a Whiting building or weding building um
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was also Hotel both of them get their Wrecking Ball but we'll move forward to the farro
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farro Opera House in Lima Ohio another Ohio
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Gem and that's uh Western Ohio that's where General Dynamics refurbishes the
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mighty M1 main battle tank for the United States military okay interesting
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interesting H uh built 1882 and the population was
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about 7,000 people incredible demol in 1953 of
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course again well we could keep saying it all night I'm sure urban
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renewal this isn't near the end of itself like check the difference here um I'll go back and forth let me know if
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you see a difference can you see what's going on
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here and then look like they're they're steadily quote unquote renovating it
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that's what will be informed happened and in the process of renovation much like with the towers that got pulled
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down suddenly this incredibly opulent and inspiring building aesthetically is
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diminished in a very subtle manner yeah it turns into this and and it's just that that looks less much less appealing
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than this and that's what they do postcard actually shows it pretty
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well the detail little Dormer coming off the uh oh it's just this is incredible
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it's incredible incredible work here's a look at the interior in Lima
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Ohio catch an opera show in Lima Ohio that sounds funny to
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me I think they pronounce it Lima I don't recall I remember going there on a
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tour in my previous life and I think they pronounce it Lima I might be wrong well it's funny because I did a video on
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it years ago and I got corrected because I called it Lima just like Peru right and I had somebody just get it that's
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why I'm stressing it now hoping I got it right maybe I don't you can't ever be right I mean that's just that's just how
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there is to it you know it's like when you go to Missouri and there's that town there that's called
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verses not vers sales yes and you don't save heri I
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mean no you can't get any more uh never mind I'm not even gonna finish a sentence but I mean it's everywhere you
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know wherever you go everyone talks about pronouncing the name properly well how do you know that's the proper to
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pronounce it even if you're from there that's just how you're saying it I did uh I did Lancaster Pennsylvania
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recently and I got corrected because I wasn't calling it Lancaster oh goodness it's like oh man
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it's hard to keep up hard to keep up okay we'll move on move on uh one last look at the um phoh farough opera house
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and just a rendering sometimes they show us maybe something different maybe not but 1870s they putting this stuff up in
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these small town Ohio as as though they knew they were
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going to have a massive tank production facility there in the future huh yeah they're very cultured with
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their Opera too Lockport New York a hodge opera house built in 1871 this one
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quite obscure took a bit of digging to find this one with this top on it lovely
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portal windows on that Beauty look at that MH yeah you get feeling that
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possibly something's missing from above here as well possibly over here as well maybe
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it's already gone through a first phase of uh deification if you
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will I don't know maybe not just speculating there's another look at it there Let's Get Closer on this
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one and then you can see heck is that but this yes the ladder to get from
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one side of the street to the other I'd imagine it's part of the um the street cars maybe I don't know
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though completely total speculation very very intriguing whenever you see one of these uh these double photos you always
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have very interesting little details that tend to stand out yeah and I don't know if people know that you can
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actually kind of like blur your eyes and it's supposed to be 3D that was the whole point of
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these yeah apparently it's very very peculiar although you know then then there's also something that was lost
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cost of them when a lot of them were transferred to micro fish or microfilm very very interesting where the photos
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were altered irrevocably in the name of preserving them I uh I Envision in 1984
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type of process processing the past you know as you say that I I can Envision
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wholesale efforts to uh erase much of the evidence what we're seeing is just the stuff that SLI through the
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cracks Maybe okay well there's a lot that's flipped through the cracks yeah yeah for sure
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there's enough enough for us to be skeptical that's for sure the uh eight so this place burns down in 1881 this
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Hodge Opera House in Lockport New York you can pause and read all of this I've just sort of highlighted just to keep uh
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myself focused on the what's important in the story a year later in 1882 the second Hodge opera house is built until
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it too was destroyed by fire in 1928 here's the second
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one yeah and here's the first one again let's take a
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look not a huge difference in shape they
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P yeah they took the tower down and added a little statue it looks like that's about it yeah so a poor thing
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burns down twice are we sensing a pattern oh I these are interesting too
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some of these ones with like the icicles all over them you see that a lot in postcards as well buildings that burn
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down and then they just become you know covered in ice well you know it's funny
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you mention that because that's another one of those recurring patterns that we see in a lot of these photos from the
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1800s where we either see these extreme effects of weather where it's as though the Ice Age just hit or the opposite
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where you have the aid landscape in areas that are very much not arid Landscapes today it's truly bizarre yeah
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just another uh another one to add to those mysteries from the past
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yeah okay it's really strange yeah yeah it's strange how they celebrate that too
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we'll move on to we get a Canadian one in here London Ontario uh very grainy apologies not much could find very very
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little on this had to dig deep for this one um lasted 20 years built in 1880 at
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a time when London had 26,000 people let me just show you
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what it looked like here on the left here we go
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again 286,000 people supposedly living there at the time approximately yet they're building uh it's also double doe
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Sonic Hall by the way so it wasn't just an opera house double duty yes indeed so um yep let's go put
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on our robes and have a nice dinner this is amazing don't you think like this is
47:54
man the I love these upper I'm noticing this a lot more and more these maner style roofs that they end up
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decapitating like here this is it later on they've taken that off all of that completely and they just turned into a
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flat roof so I suspect a lot of these flat roof brick buildings with these arched windows that we're seeing in our
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towns and cities were much much more along the lines of this that's what my
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hypothesis is I'm thinking that uh that the one place you can still see them is if you
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can find old Mains on universities that survive the original old man you'll still see that they didn't decapitate
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them on the university for whatever reason you're worthy of a uh a video as
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well old Mains maybe I'll put a file together and have you on we can chat about those sometime as well yeah
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definitely have to be a live stream because uh for whatever reason exploration videos just are you know
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difficult to do for a variety of reasons on those so this one there it is the fire
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ticket in 1900 this is a supposedly a picture of the after effects of the
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fire I I I hate to be sort of morbid with all these um guys watching you know
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some people get a little bit down when every every one of these is destroyed that's not the intention here is really
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just to illustrate um the pattern and the uh the method that uh we can see
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just with the information we're given so I don't mean to be you know to bring anyone down about this but like I said
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earlier sometimes I get people in the comments section asking why why focus on it because it's just feels so negative I
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guess well we have to remember everything that was lost I think that's important because if we don't it's gone
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and it's not coming back yeah yeah I think yeah we have to remember we have to remember in that so
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important even the hard stuff we even the uncomfortable stuff we still have to especially the uncomfortable stuff I
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think we have to um hold that in our minds so it doesn't happen again right
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Millersburg Ohio another Ohio would you look at that um built around 1890 when
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there was less than 2,000 people living there seats over 400 and demolished in
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1954 yeah it could very easily be a church or a courthouse or a city hall
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we've seen all oh my gosh look what they did to that 50s right this is the demolition
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process this gives you a good idea of the texture on this structure just that
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I always use that term in my videos like the weight I don't know if it's the best term but the weight of the building
50:36
materials itself comes through visually here you can see it as well
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City Hall and Opera House doubled just like the one of the previous ones we looked at see and then there's that question
50:50
why was it there were some buildings that seemed to be earmarked for Rapid demolition but others survived to this
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day I still wonder about that one yeah it's a good point it's a good point why
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did some survive and why are some gone or eventually is the plan to get rid of them all who knows who knows there it is
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again black and white photo nice looking structure Beauty looking like probably
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it was a firehouse fireh Hall too city hall fireh Hall you could see the big doors here in the front oh yeah yeah and
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of course they all had lower Windows as a rule
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excavation with shovels shovel excavation with donkeys yeah get the old mules
51:35
out we go back to New York um the oh sorry no New Orleans my mistake my
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mistake um 1859 again very early time period um they're building an opera
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house I guess you could if there's one city in in the states that I might give
51:54
a pass for building an opera house on an early time period it might be New Orleans just from what I know of it from
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pop culture off the top of my head oh yeah the French aspect
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maybe well you know that's what makes New Orleans interesting is you know they go back and it's not just the French
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it's also they try to incorporate the Spanish element into it to explain it yeah it's confusing we got we've got
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that magical Baro architecture it's also responsible for some of those things that you see like there is that um the
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uh bird's eye of New Orleans from I think it was the 1850s it is just stunning and virtually unbelievable to
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behold well this too this is the interior of the French opera house built in the
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1850s four balconies who's the engineer on this project is probably just an
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architect yeah e Townson mix you know just throw some name at it
52:59
yeah try I just try to again I try to Envision the build process and all the scaffolding it would take because you've
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got ornately finish every single square inch that you're looking at here and some of this would have been 30 40 50
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feet off the ground floor you would have to have scaffold up set some sort of rigging like it's just beyond
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comprehension the amount of lumber they would have had to use for the scaffolding on these structures would
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have been able to build a city at the time the way we build today uhuh it's
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not logical no there's another was no it
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wasn't that's true I'll roll through this one um it again it burns down in
53:40
1919 unfortunately here's a nice look at uh one of the
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rooms look at that
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beautiful everything painted paintings on the ceilings right paintings everywhere somebody's painting
53:57
everything every surface they could possibly get their hands on they're doing these amazing frescos
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and yeah just the the time and resources that had to be dedicated to that just to
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achieve that yeah it's not possible yeah again here they are celebrating the uh
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the destruction here's a look at the stage area let's see what we can get from that you can see again more paintings in the upper area
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here very curvy balcony
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just incredible beautiful yeah yeah I I'll keep going oh man I'm going
54:35
slow we'll see how far we can get on this file anyway Metropolitan Opera House in New York um quite famous I
54:41
would think um demolished in it was s first of
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all built in 1883 let me not I'm not going to get ahead of myself here doesn't look like a whole lot I mean
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it's nice it's this is nice nice looking structure but when you get to the interior is really when it uh jumps out
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at you 1880s New York
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right because the old Aster theater um nobody's going there anymore because of
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the the massacre so they're heading over to the to the Met Metropolitan Opera
55:15
House yeah they did they took a few like this is what I expect to see from um a
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lot of buildings that were demolished in the 50s and 60s is there should have been an extens archive maybe there is we
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just don't have access to along these lines though you should have had everything should have been extensively
55:34
archived for the sake of history and documentation I would think you know well I saw someone you
55:41
know pause it in the comments you know it's hard to believe that it's real that is a legitimate point because the issue
55:48
we have is we're only looking at images you know we can't actually verify that it's real so then you're asking well how
55:54
do you know there's a possibility that that even existed because there are still structures that stand where you do
56:01
still see these exact same kind of decorations so if they're still there
56:07
then it stands to reason that yes they really were in these theaters and in these Opera Houses and then so the next
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question that should come to your mind if you don't believe like how could these possibly have been real who in the
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right mind would ever approve to tear these things down is the next question for
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me you know yeah well you know just you can look at policy decisions over the
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last hundred years and try to figure that one out yeah yeah yeah this is one
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of the areas of the Interior would you look at that what are we looking at here what are those figures that's incredible
56:41
looks familiar though oh yeah I think I see our favorite cou look looking like you've got figures
56:48
on either side of this one facing away one facing towards maybe can yeah can
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you get a little closer is that the uh yeah look at that you think I I think
56:59
you're right those do look like figures that seem to be embracing in some sort of way but you have the
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central blank Medallion whatever you want to call it that we've been talking about that seems to rear its head and
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the decorations on the columns too wow yeah this is just so over the toop
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ornate that they had to get rid of it I guess they just had to here's another
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one of those more modern um photographs what the heck is going on there yeah
57:30
it's odd isn't it that is very odd Phantom of the
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Opera and just a peek at what life was once like in this beautiful Metropolitan Opera House in New York City look what
57:43
they're watching you gotta love that too well
57:49
you know everybody was into their castles at all points in time yeah they hadn't TI the uh the cone off yet just
57:57
for to give the turreted effect now they still have the cones on these so a lot of these were torn
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down oh no I I jumped so here let me go back you're not supposed to see this one guys we're going to go to the academy
58:12
also in New York 1854 this one gets built let me just go to some information here um The Academy
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Opera House destroyed by fire in 1866 subsequently rebuilt um but the Met
58:27
took it over and it was demolished in 1926 so fire rebuilt demolished in 26 is
58:35
how that goes keep you're keeping track oh boy yeah the
58:44
academy yeah all right move on to Omaha this one's an interesting narrative as well
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um not a lot of Visual Evidence of this one I've got this one and this one you can see the
58:57
the muddy streets but you can also see the rail tracks really sticking out of the mud here in the foreground which is
59:07
interesting an indication that the infrastructure was there and a part of it yeah no doubt about it very
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interesting so this is the Boyd's opera house let's just get a little bit of narrative um I pulled out some of the
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highlights um erected in 1881 in Omaha amazing old world City
59:26
Omaha Nebraska you guys can read the rest I'm just going to for the sake of expedience we're just going to move
59:32
forward um they they really praise this one in the narrative as uh really almost
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fireproof not quite fireproof but almost fireproof there's barely any danger of
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fire opens in 1881 and it burned down 12 years later
59:57
and then he built another one 2000 Cedar that's apparently the one we're looking I honestly I've lost
1:00:02
track I've lost track that's pretty
1:00:07
funny this supposedly is the second one so or the first not even sure not even
1:00:14
sure no how could anybody be how are you doing for time can you
1:00:19
stick with me another about 20 minutes if you don't mind that work for you uh give you about five okay five
1:00:27
sorry sorry to cut you short that's okay I'll uh I'll try to pick out some of the highlights then um Poria Poria
1:00:36
Illinois 1882 1909 same timeline pretty much all of these right in that same
1:00:43
timeline of course you know you probably know what happens to it it uh yeah yeah
1:00:50
fire the old Fire gets it every single one
1:00:57
yeah okay let's see Pueblo Colorado we're going to go
1:01:02
we're going to go rapid speed now just to just to hammer the the point home here 1890 to 1922 what do you think
1:01:08
happens to this if you had to guess 1922 well it's either a fire or
1:01:15
yeah it wasn't urban renewal yet so they would say fire right you are the Opera House block
1:01:20
fire in peblo in 1922 takes this thing out and this thing what a building
1:01:27
Pueblo Colorado at a time when there had 25,000 people um they supposedly built this
1:01:34
Fortress and called it an opera house so yeah it gets even more hilarious when
1:01:41
you uh look up the whole Dr Quinn TV show and see how people were living right before that time frame in Colorado
1:01:48
Springs is that the uh Medicine Woman Dr Quinn Medicine Woman Dr Quinn Medicine Woman that's the one I recall I recall
1:01:56
here's the uh the ice effect again being highlighted or or whatever that might
1:02:04
be really strange yeah yeah I think I'll cut it out there then I'll let you I'll
1:02:10
let you go I think uh a point has been made I'm gonna I'm going to continue with the stream um just finish up my
1:02:16
file just so people can see all this and uh I just want to thank you for your time and uh um joining me on this
1:02:23
presentation and of course I always look forward to doing it again no you're most welcome and thanks for having me it was
1:02:29
a pleasure all right I'll tell next time
1:02:34
thanks all right guys I'll uh continue with the file for those of you that are interested in seeing what else I have
1:02:39
left in here I still have about 40 pictures so we're going to still see about I don't know 10ish Opera Houses so
1:02:46
if you'd like to stick around please do um love it when aelan comes on here you guys got so much knowledge um and
1:02:54
insight and I always appreciate when he joins me so we'll try to do somewhat regular uh occurrence here on our
1:03:00
Tuesday night lives I'm just checking out the chat now
1:03:07
getting back in here I see Jack and Steph and Isabella alive Pueblo's old steel mill had a big
1:03:14
fire last year Julia says that's interesting Pueblo
1:03:22
Colorado all right I'll uh I'll keep an eye on the chat here guys let's uh keep going forward what do you guys
1:03:29
think of these these Opera hous narratives like I think it's a good one to focus on because like I've been
1:03:35
saying it's not uh something I expected as a part of a historical narrative and I think that the conventional historical
1:03:41
narrative really has a problem trying to explain this so they don't really explain it and you have all these double
1:03:47
fires it just uh it's laughable at some point especially how quickly they rebuild these things you know it's quite
1:03:54
clear this is the new Tivoli Opera House in San Francisco now
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it's called the new because um it's built in 1903 there's a previous one
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actually don't have that but uh it only stands for three years 1903 to 1906 it
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succumbs to um fire and destruction in the great San
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Francisco earthquake I'm reading Jack's comment
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now Mr I know know you know what I go back and I I read all the commentary after I do my lives but I'm not uh I
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wish I had that beautiful mind like Russell crow in that movie where I could do both at once look at the pictures and
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keep an eye on the chat it's a pretty difficult juggling act to do for sure actually there should
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be like a a r no there shouldn't I was going to say there should be a button like that alerts my attention but that would just get abused I would think the
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tivoly opera house so these are kind of some of the images coming out of the tily what do you guys make of
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this almost feels like androgynous to me I don't know maybe that's just me this
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one of the early photos coming out of the the tiv opera house before it uh gets
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destroyed this would be the interior of the previous opera house just a rendering that we're given looks like a
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nice place to catch a
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show yeah we're going to get I'm check in the chat ladies in costume maybe ladies I don't know are these ladies
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guys guys and gals are these ladies I don't
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know seems a bit strange there's another look at the uh
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celebration of the destruction of San Francisco basically like why are you
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selling postcards of the destruction I find that a bit morbid there it is again very or you can
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see the uh statues on the side there well that's San
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Fran I'm sure there's more but we're gonna move on to Seattle
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now and I know this doesn't look like much for an opera house well that's
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because well it's the second opera house you can see here I've got three dates I've got 1900 1906 and 1917 so
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um this apparently gets a couple doovers but before all that happened Seattle had
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let me find it here this guy the fry opera
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house and let me pull up some narrative actually keep it on here for a bit let
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just let let me get some narrative here for you no this this is the one I looked at now I'm just I'm sort of scattered a
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bit this one here burn down in 1906 but it doesn't burn down it just gets devastated and
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then uh gets kind of fixed up or whatever and then uh the same
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one went up in a spe spectacular early morning Blaze that claimed the life of a
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firefighter uh in 1917 so this one burns down twice that's why I have those multiple dates
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there and there's a there's a look at the interior and to me this photo looks much
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newer than 1917 what do you guys think of that as well this is supposed to be right after
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actually this is supposed to be the 1906 fire this photo is supposed to be from
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1906 what do you guys think of that 1906 photograph or could this have
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been taken in the 90s or even in the
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2000s I don't know doesn't look right to me now we'll get to Seattle's Beauty so
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the the one that was previous to this opera house was this one the fry Opera House way nicer than the later version
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in my opinion and you can see here also only stood for about five years burned
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down in the Great Fire of Seattle in 1889 had their great fire we've
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mentioned a few great fires here tonight we he Cincinnati in 1866 Seattle had theirs in
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1889 but we do have some glimpses of it before it burned down and you can do
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drugs as well at the YMCA sorry I got caught reading their
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big signs that they slap all over these
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structures all right so here here it is I showed you this one looking very strange and uh I don't know not very
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your level making our way up the street here's what it used to look like apparently and I don't know it only
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stood for five years so in that fiveyear time frame time frame when did they have the uh when did they take this down and
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change it to this questions so many
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questions anyway uh poor thing gets destroyed in
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the uh great Seattle Fire of 1889 there it is again depicted on an
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old bird's eye map from 188 9 coming to the end of the file got
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about 20 photos left I'll bring you everything I've got as I like to do just so they're archived
1:09:37
online and that we can be together a little bit longer those you here are watching if you're watching the recorded version I appreciate it make sure you uh
1:09:44
hit the thumbs up and throw a comment in there even if you don't like my Approach throw it in there always like a good
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back and forth uh or if you have a an opera house maybe research Maybe research your town
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maybe it had an opera house and throw that in the comment section that's what we need to start doing is bombarding The Narrative with a volume if everybody you
1:10:03
know who watches this looks up um the history and the potential that there is
1:10:08
in this case an opera house um we could really put some serious uh put a real dent in that narrative Sue City 1888
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till 1931 built at a time when there's 35,000 people let's look a little bit closer
1:10:24
1888 Sue City Iowa they're doing this to the front of their opera
1:10:35
house I don't know I don't know I have trouble I have
1:10:40
trouble buying it look at the even the sidewalks look how old this all looks there looks like there's a a basement
1:10:46
entrance here I don't know not buying it you know
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me I got trouble I've got trouble with that official narrative there it is
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again uh demolished and I don't think fire is the reason for this I could be
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wrong but I couldn't really find much else on it but I do know that it was um
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demolished or was gone 1931 this is one of my favorites this is
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Superior Wisconsin um this one lasts 19 years built at a
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time when there's 11,000 people living in Superior let me get you a better look at
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this thing there we go now they could have probably called
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this a synagogue or a temple of some sort I've seen a lot especially with the symbolism on the front
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there demolicious I hear you
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jack yeah that's supposed to be an Opera House Shader I don't know
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yeah I need to your actual physical postcards for sure that's uh some of them are interesting with the writing on
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them and they've got the date on them and sometimes that's a giveaway and I also feel that some of these buildings have been dated according to the the
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oldest available postcard they'll tell us that it was built and for instance a postcard will be signed 1906 the
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building on it will be look much older but that'll be like the oldest possible date so they've tinkered with the
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timeline I think uh this poor opera house was supposed to be fireproof but it had two
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fires 1909 and 1911 no it had Three Fires 1939 was its
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ultimate Dev buis there it is and again we're getting a repeat of
1:12:42
that collapse we saw at the beginning where people are just gathered around with their firefighting equipment um
1:12:48
enjoying the blaze almost get your marshmallows out fellas let's take down the old world
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that's how I see it anyway I could be wrong it could all be on the up and up but you know me I'm a
1:13:02
skeptic another celebration of the burning of the Opera House appar and
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this looks fake to me this is supposed to be smoke coming out the openings like so why are you faking a
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photograph of the burning down of the Opera house if that's the case if my uh
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supposition is correct I don't know
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anyway I'll uh I'll move
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forward Kathy I won't read it out but I like it I'm sure it's out there I'm sure it's
1:13:38
out there if it's not then we'll have to we'll have to insert it into the narrative and
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uh see if we can get it going all right terot terot
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Indiana 1897 to 196 their wonderful looking opera house looks like it's
1:13:58
going to be urban renewal that takes this one here's another great example of that maner style upper reaches where um
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if you look around your towns this would be the roof line and you'd be looking at
1:14:12
a flat roof but likely there was much much more going on above that flat
1:14:20
roof and we just have a few looks this some of the surrounding areas Tero I did a video on
1:14:26
amazing old world city didn't know anything about it before I did it and
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uh let's take a look at some narrative opened in November 1987 um torn down in 1960 I'll leave the
1:14:41
rest of it alone a lot of it's just filler fairly large 1300
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seats and they list they like to list off all those famous names apparently entertainment Hub of Western Indiana
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uh I think we are at the last location we are this is the last one and we pick a Canadian
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location Toronto Ontario and this one looks like it's survived the um great Toronto
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fire in 1904 I believe I could have that wrong could be 1901 um but they Toronto also having its
1:15:18
great fire you could see 1874 here this thing gets built and uh doesn't make it
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to past 19 27 but I'll showing all those Hallmarks
1:15:29
that we're seeing in all these other locations so my uh what I my implication
1:15:35
is that we're looking at um the remnants of of a previous uh civilization that was overlay with a new
1:15:41
timeline and a new explanation for much of the structures that we're seeing the
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attempt here on this channel is to provide you with enough evidence to overwhelm you into having no possible
1:15:54
way to defend the conventional historical narrative so it's kind of a bully tactic when I throw all of this
1:16:00
evidence at you once I admit it bit of a bully tactic apologize for
1:16:06
that but I think when you see enough of these stacked up next to each other I hope my hope is that uh you have no way
1:16:14
of defending the narrative that uh we've been given this is just a look at the what the interior of the Toronto oper house
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used to be and just a brief EXP explation this one also suffered a
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number of fires so the narrative repeats terot having the same I think it was terot now I've have lost track including
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a major blaze in 1879 it never recovered from those fires
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we are told and then it was neglected and unceremoniously demolished in 1927
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this a big part of the narrative that we see as well the downplaying of these structures as they fade off into the
1:16:52
past all we have is uh all we have is this memory that we're trying to keep alive
1:16:58
here um the site of the former ground Opera House is now occupied by the 68 story scoa Plaza the sole remaining
1:17:06
physical Legacy of this concert hall is a small Lane running south from Adelaide
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Street West named grand opera Lane and this is what they do as well they try to
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it's not really even an omage it's almost mocking the fact that it once did and uh this is what they replaced it
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with reminding me of uh 2001 Space Odyssey to
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spell it out all right that's the end of my file here tonight I'm just looking at the
1:17:35
chat here uh I want to thank all you guys for joining me here on my my
1:17:40
Tuesday Night Live attempting to make this a regular thing this is I think my third
1:17:50
episode Jack's Jack's a good kind of troll Jack's a troll but he's a good kind
1:17:55
in the chat
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um yeah so next week we have uh um a Knuckleheads the next Knuckleheads
1:18:06
episode Frankie from New West reset and I are going to um go on a little vacay
1:18:12
not literally um but digitally and we're going to check out glasow glasow
1:18:18
Scotland so that should be fun uh week after that I've got chyros joining me I
1:18:23
am chyros we're going to do a deep dive on the San Francisco area I would say he's probably the authority on the
1:18:31
geography um and architecture in that area as far as the amount of research he's done so stick around for those
1:18:38
there'll be more coming in the following weeks I'm really trying to get other content creators um with me on here so
1:18:45
if you are one or know of one uh let me know who you think would be cool to team up with and I'll reach out to them and
1:18:52
uh and we'll do some future shows so I want to I want there to be I want this to be a place where we can have
1:18:58
sort of dialogue on the Old World um a little bit free wheeling I guess be fun
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too so thank you all for joining me this Tuesday evening and
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uh I'll talk to you next time this has been an old world
1:19:17
exploration if you're new to the channel don't forget to subscribe hit the thumbs up button and comment I believe we are
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in the the process of remembering who we really are and casting off the shackles of Illusion until next time

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