Every Third Bealtes Song Performed Live was a Cover Tune

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hello friends this is mike williams ophir zivi is back with us to present his analysis which looks into the songs
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the beatles played live and to assess whether the live performances reflected the songs and hits from their first
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seven albums and if not why not and so without further ado here's opher
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well folks we have oprah zeeby is uh back with us today and uh we're
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going to take a look at something that opher and i have discussed in the past in our discussions but we never actually
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sat down and did a deeper dive and so what we're going to take a look at is the beatle albums their official
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uk releases and the reason why we're going to focus on the uk albums is because they are the
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official releases it's not the capital releases it's the uk albums that are recognized as the official
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releases and we're going to do a comparison or i should say over has done a comparison
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where he lays that up against the the beatles set list
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when they played live between the period of 1962-1966
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so that's the period we're going to focus on 62-66 because that's when the beatles
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played live so if we take a look at the first slide this document compares the songs of the
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beatles first seven uk studio album releases versus the reported set list
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that the beatles performed on the day or close to the date when each album was released
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and over sourced the set list from the website
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setlist.fm it's a very good site and it's a very good source
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and so the question as we go through this is going to be two questions one is does this analysis support the
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official narrative which states that the beatles were geniuses and could do it all they could
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write compose record and perform and when we talk about performing and i've spoken about this many times we're
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talking about extensive live performance gigs
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all right so that we have to keep that in mind it's very constant throughout the timeline up
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through the 1965 period but especially 62 63 64.
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the beatles were non-stop performing live the other question that we have is it's
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the the opposite side of the coin or does what we're going to take you through
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support the revised narrative and when we talk about the revised narrative of course it means that the
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beatles were manufactured and handled and did not write and play
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on their early period recordings and again we're focused on 1962 through 1966
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and so as we go through this we're going to ask for you to decide we're not going to uh
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decide for you we'll have our opinions of course but you can decide after taking a look at the analysis is there
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anything you wanted to add over um hi mike um first thanks for having me on
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your show again um it's always a pleasure and
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um we sourced the website uh setlist.fm
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which uh lists um the songs that the beatles played
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on the live performances that many of the um shows
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do not show uh the songs that were performed but
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there are a lot of shows that we do get the set list as reported by a variety of
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people who either well there or from other places and the reason we we know that this uh
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source is i mean reasonable and and and true truthful
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is because uh you can find on youtube some of the shows like the buddha khan that you discussed
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the shows from shea stadium and from other places in america and we see that they they match the set
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lists uh that appear in order on this website set list fam so we can
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assume that this is a fairly uh you know reasonable and truthful uh
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website and you will see as we take you through uh the slides
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uh the information that we found there okay so
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it's an accurate depiction of what they played on that given day
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yeah and i just want to add one more comment the question between you and i and i'm
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sure many of our listeners people who also have watched your uh presentations in the last few years
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uh we can ask ourselves if they did come
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write and compose all of their songs and with some practice there shouldn't have
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been a problem playing them live on shows on live shows
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but um as we'll go through the slides we'll see that this is not the case
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uh there are all kinds of qualities and and things that
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uh we take a deep dive into and [Music]
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they really beg a lot of questions which we'll get there uh which we'll get to also in the end of
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this presentation okay yeah great and like we said offer we're going to let the audience decide
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so on the on the second slide this is something that i actually put together
Original compositions
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and when i did the my big presentation did the beatles write all their own music
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i focus on their official uk album releases and the songs
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contained on the albums and they had 77 original compositions
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on those seven albums please please me through revolver so in my big presentation
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i did not focus on the singles that they released and many of the singles were not
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on the albums although we had some cases where certain singles were but there are two singles that i did
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cover in my big presentation because they were recorded during the rubber soul sessions and that was
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we can work it out and daytripper so the number of songs
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original compositions on the official uk releases again please please me through revolver is 77.
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so then what i did was i went back and took a look at okay so how many singles were released
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that were not on the albums and that number is 14 and you can see that the bottom right hand
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side of the slide is a yellow bar and there's the 14 all the way to the right below that the green bar is the 77 songs
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from the uh from the official uk albums and that totals to
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91 songs original compositions between 1962
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and 1966 i've mentioned the number of 90 i rounded it to 90 in a couple of
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discussions and presentations that i did and the point that i had made was that
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when i took a look at the total number of original songs between 62 and 66
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and when i went through the setlist site and i was sampling
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various performances i counted up around
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25 original compositions that they played
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over the timeline so it's 25 out of 91.
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and so the question i asked and i i still ask is well
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what happened to the other 65 songs how come they didn't play
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any of those other 65 songs but would continue to play
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cover songs throughout their performances in some cases they might play one cover in other
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cases they played two or three but my point being is if they had this
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portfolio of original compositions why would they continue to play cover
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songs especially as they progressed through the timeline as they got into 1964 65 and 66 and so
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on they could have went back to this very rich portfolio of songs that they had
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recorded my answer to that has always been that's because they were taught songs
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and they didn't actually write the songs and they didn't record the songs there were studio musicians that were
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doing the uh laying down the tracks for the for the recorded versions of the songs on the albums and the singles
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so the beatles had to learn the song so they were able to learn 25 of those
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songs and that's why the number is 25 and not something greater
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again laying it up against this number of 91 original compositions so again not to
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repeat myself 65 songs just don't present themselves live and i
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found that to be very interesting all right so with that that's kind of um the two setup slides and let's take a look
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at the first slide over and from here on in i'll chime in here or there
Please Please Me
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but i'm going to give you the floor and please please me is uh the first slide that uh you put
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together so what did you find with uh with please please me we begin the um our journey
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um which has seven stops and stopped for each album
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and if you take a look at the chart here the table here on one side you have the
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list of songs on the album on the uk release and on the other side you have the songs
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that were performed live according to the information we get from the setlist dot fm um website
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on either the same day here it's the same day my unexplained uh or a very close uh date to the uh release date of
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the album so please please me was issued in the uk on march the 22nd
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of 1963 um and we recall by the way that this is
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like about a short um three or four weeks after the famous
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february 11th where they recorded 11 songs in a nine hour session
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which we discussed in the past and yeah i think it was 10 songs yeah 10 songs
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found themselves on please please me with four additional songs that were released
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on two singles previously so what you see on the on one side is the um
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uh list of songs on the album please please me uh we
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did uh mark songs which are covers and you can see
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that on please please me we have six covers so out of 14 songs
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six uh covers and then on the other side of the table on the same day
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on march 22nd the middle appeared on the gomon theatre
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in dunkster of england and they only performed six songs
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love me do misery taste of honey which is a cover do you want to know a secret please please me and i saw her standing
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there now what we can learn um here
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is and by the way i checked also other dates on the same month on march
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of 1963 and the the set lists are the same
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so we see the same six songs this is what they performed it could be that on some shows they were
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appearing with other people with other performers so they just you know appeared for a very brief
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time with 20 minutes but this is what we have and so we have one cover which is a
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taste of honey and five other uh original compositions now uh we learned that from memoirs
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and other investigations which basically your work is that four early songs were written by
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bill sheppard in the uh peppercorns group i saw her standing there i want to hold
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your hand she loves you and please please me so two of them appear here
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on this very very short set list so what we see is that they did one cover
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they we know they did a lot of covers in the previous before they were signed when they
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appeared in uh germany and liverpool and um five songs which are originals
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okay now we have to remember that in um
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the setlist.fm also calculated how many shows they did each year
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and i want to mention this because this is important in 1960 they did 134
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1961 246 1962 was like a record deal they did 391
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shows but also in 1963 they did 339 shows
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throughout the entire year this is an amazing number of shows
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it's almost every day now we know that on some days they did double shows okay
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but if you think that 339 of 339 performances
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out of 365 days that's 1963. this is
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i would say cruel uh schedule of shows i don't have any
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other word to describe it day of the day after day of performing
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and moving from theater to theater from city to city it's very very hectic it's very
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difficult but this is what what we know so
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here the beginning point we see that the album six covers out of 14 songs so six six covers and eight
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originals and on the show on the set list they have just performed six songs five
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originals and one cover um so we still cannot make up um
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you know any any thing of importance but let's go on to
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number two and we'll see how it progresses okay there's one thing i wanted to uh to comment on offer because
Bill Sheppard
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because you mentioned it i just want to make sure we clarify what you meant by it so you said as per memoirs and
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external investigations four of the early songs were written by bill shepard i saw her standing there i
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want to hold your hand she loves you please please me now what we mean by that is there is a
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passage in memoirs and it's it's written in a way that it's
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coy i will admit that but it strongly alludes to
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bill shepard or billy shears being involved in writing some of these early songs
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and one of the points over that i have surmised and i think you have too is that at the very least
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the songs were written by him and two they were recorded
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possibly as demos for the beatles to learn from and one comment that you made
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to me going back that was probably about a year ago you said to me that you could not find a
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concrete date as to when the pepper pot's album was recorded and released do you
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remember telling me that yes um i found a comment by someone on a
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review review board that he says that he saw a copy of uh bell pepper on the pepperbot's
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album from 1961 but we don't have a
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you know any evidence of that unfortunately maybe now the albums that appear now and they
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show on like a wikipedia and everything they say that the albums were released in 1964.
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so we can only guess whether it was in order to hide the fact that these
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songs were actually written way before the beatles recorded them
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and in fact put on an album if this album really appeared in england at least in 1961 maybe 1962
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but the only source we have so far is memoirs which states that uh it talks about i
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think on i want to hold your hand yeah yeah so so if if memoirs is is correct
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and as i mentioned it does lead us down that path then it says that billy
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was involved in the beatles in the whole project the initiative the psyop whatever you want
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to call it early on it was way before 1966 is the point okay so
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we'll let the the audience decide which way they want to go with this somebody could say well
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it was released in 1964 and so on but you know we're talking about deep state
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activities folks this is a point i make all the time they put out information and data that
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they want to put out it's as simple as that they can make any record they want to make and when i say
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a record i mean documentation giving us dates as to when things were released or published and so on i mean
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they create that information so they can lead you to believe whatever it is that they want you
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to believe okay so all i'm saying is and and offer saying is to keep an open mind that it's
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possible it's very possible that the the pepper pots and the the recording of these songs
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were done prior to the beatles coming on board with emi and that george martin
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had tapped billy to write these songs to record them to be
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used as demos so the beatles can learn them okay so it is a premise
With the Beatles
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okay so the next slide is with the beatles which is their second uk release
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and we see here on the right hand side i don't want to uh steal your thunder but there's a lot of covers
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that wind up being played live but let's let's just start with uh where you want to start with this slide
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so the second album the comparison again is on the same date and by the way it's a
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very famous date in the american history of course november 22nd of 1963 the kennedy
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assassination but this is not the point of our discussion today
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um on this date uh in the uk we saw the release of with the beatles
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the second album again 14 songs on the record and six of them are covers
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so although 1963 was the breakup year of the beatles in the uk
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and this album came towards the end of 1963 we still see that
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in terms of material on the album 14 songs eight new or eight originals
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and six covers so we still have a lot of covers and if you look at the other side of the
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table you see the set list now we see 10 songs five originals and five covers
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now i made some comments here from me to you and she loves you were released as singles in 1963
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but they do not appear on any of any one of the first two albums now
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in 1963 i want to hold your hand was a huge uk number one five weeks at number one
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also released as a single but we don't see it on the set list
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uh the song was recorded on october october 17th a month before the release of with the beatles and before the show
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and in fact it was released on october 29th but they still did not play it live then
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i found this to be a little strange uh this huge hit does not show
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on setlist previous to november 22nd 1963 or afterwards
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so this is interesting because we know that when a band issues a single
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uh in order to promote it and if they wrote it and composed it
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and with some practice there shouldn't be a problem performing it and yet on the set list we see
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five originals five covers and no i want to hold your hand okay and this runs also
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on the dates uh the performance dates after november 22 the 22nd
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so this i found to be very strange now the other thing i found very interesting with the set list is
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when we take a look at the cover so that's where we have the the little the finger pointing to the songs
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of all the songs from with the beatles the current album the only original
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is all my loving which is the third song showing on the set list on the right
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hand side of the table all of the other songs from with the beatles are cover tunes
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so that begs the question why did they not play more of the original music
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from with the beatles what it says to me is the reason why that happened is because they had not learned
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the original songs from with the beatles now with the beatles was one of those situations
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where if i remember my numbers and my days correctly they recorded all of the songs
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i think it was two sessions within a seven day period of time so it was non-contiguous which means they came
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in they recorded the album we're told they recorded the album then there was a break they came in for a second session
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and they finished recording the rest of the album or the songs on the album okay so again we have one of these situations
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where we have a very very compressed timeline this is a problem that we see throughout the beatle timeline
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very very compressed periods of time as to when they're in the studio and supposedly recording these songs
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but along with not playing i want to hold your hand which you're absolutely correct that should have been on a set
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list you would think they played only one original from with the beatles and everything else that was
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on the with the beatles album that they played on the set list were cover tunes very odd and also i found
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i found it interesting that please please me was not performed please excuse me was actually
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the second single after love me do love we do got to number 17 by the end of 1962 but please please we
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got to number two uh on the official uk chart and it was really the breakout hit in
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england in 1963. so five covers on the set list and no i
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want to hold your hand the new single and now please please me which is was
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also a huge hit in the uk so that's the story of the end of 1963 okay so we're seeing
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again folks we've been through two albums and uh with the release of with the
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beatles we're seeing a lot of cover music being played and songs that should
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have been played because of their popularity not showing up on the set list so
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again we'll let you decide uh should we go to a hard day's night over yeah
Soundtrack to Hardest Night
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so album number three uh that's the soundtrack to hardest night it was released on july the 10th
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of 1964 in the uk what we see is again
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um seven songs on side a six songs on side b
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and the royal original and then if you switch to the um the other side of the chart we see i
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chose the show uh which was on july 17th so that's like a week after the the album was in the
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stores they appeared on the paris theater in london
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on that evening and they only played eight songs now i must say that this setlist is very
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sketchy looks very sketchy to me uh i checked that with other dates on
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this um the month of july 1964 and we also get partial set lists but this is
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most probably what they performed on stage five out of the eight songs are from a holidays night
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which is accepted the other three songs all four if you count the kansas medley
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uh you see song number seven it's kansas city and hey hey hey that's a cover so three five originals and three covers
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now can't buy me love the huge number one in the uk 1964 and from this album
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does not appear on the set list so instead of playing the number one hit which also features on the new album
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they played against several covers again very strange also the the big 19
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1963 hits do not appear on this 1964 set list so again major hits from just a year
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before do not feature on the live sets covers yes but not the big hits from the the broken
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to the uk public so again this is a kind of strange situation
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i just said one more comment in 1964 they also performed a lot
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according to setlist.fm they had 232 shows
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in 1964 alone so that's also a lot might they want to add anything no you
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mentioned uh three covers with the live show but there were two right we had long tall sally and kansas city yeah he
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counted if you count hey hey hey it's part of the kansas city gotcha continuing so this is interesting too
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because um you you mentioned can't buy me love is not on the set list
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yeah and there were other songs that like you said uh hits from please please me as an example that
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didn't make the setlist yet they're doing long tall sally and kansas city
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and somebody might argue well you know they're they're good rockers and you know so it picks up the crowd the
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fun songs to play and all that stuff but in my mind that conflicts with the story that we're told
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about the beatles where they're genius songwriters and they wrote all these brilliant songs and so why would you not
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play those brilliant songs why would you continue to bring covers in so they've got uh we're told 13 original
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songs from a hard day's night and they've got two covers in a set list
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they couldn't pick two more songs from a hard day's night originals or some of the hits that over has mentioned
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instead of the covers or two more original songs from their first album please please me you know so again
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i agree with you all for this is this is very sketchy and the fact that it's only eight songs just eight songs
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doesn't seem right either it seems like it should be more songs most of their sets as they went through time were
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uh had to do with the number 11. did you want to go to uh the next album beatles for sale yeah okay let's go there
Beatles For Sale
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so jump to december 4th of 1964.
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uh this was the christmas album beatles for sale album number four and we see
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again 14 songs and we still see covers i mean this uh this
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is the fourth album by the beatles and they already have many hits but still
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some of the songs i count here i think five on the album are covers
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and again this is very interesting now if we switch to the other side we
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see that i picked the the december 24th uh
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1964 that's the day before christmas eve i think they appeared on the hammersmith audio
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in london which is a famous theater in london and if we check the set list we see 11
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songs and again one two three
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four five covers so eleven songs on the set list and five of them are covers
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and we're talking about the beatles by the end of 1964 after two years four albums and many hits already in the
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charts and in the fans hearts and half of this show is covers
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this is very strange yeah so my comments here is also i want to add
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i feel fine was released also as the 1964 christmas single and became a huge number one
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it is not on the album but we see that it is featured on the set list
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okay that's i feel fine five of the eleven songs on the set list were covers one is that
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and only three setlist songs uh here were number ones so can't buy me love
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hard is night and i feel fine they did not play the other three number one so far i want to hold your hand she loves
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you and for me to you also not feature this place please me so we see again
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five covers out of 11 songs instead of hits big hits for the beatles
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so again this is a very you know peculiar set list yeah and
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we see on beatles for sale this is when i'll follow the sun appears on an album and
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the official narrative tells us that uh that song allegedly
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goes back to i believe it was 1960 and we're told that
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that's when uh paul mccartney wrote that song and
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then four years later it ends up on beatles for sale now i've i've
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questioned that whole narrative i don't believe i'll follow the sun was uh written in 1960
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there's a lot of content that's put out there that is put out there to
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mislead and to uh to support the official narrative but here we have i'll follow
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the sun and what's interesting to me is the reason why i'm talking about this is if the song was written back in 1960
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that means it's a a well played well well-rehearsed song it's now on the album
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and it does not appear on the set list so i would think that i'll follow the
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sun which is a very good song in my opinion should have been on the set list given
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its history i want to add another thing we see two songs on the set list which will return in
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uh later uh set lists and we'll get to them if you see song number three babies and
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uh babies in black and song number eight i'm i'm looking at the set list she's a
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woman now these are by no means important songs
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out of the 250 songs that the beatles recorded and i'm saying i'm not saying they're
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not good songs i'm not saying and you know people like them but they're not important i
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mean it's not elena rigby or yesterday or you know they're not there
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and we still see that these two songs out of a very short set list
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appear and reappear you'll see them in the next slides also so it could be that these two songs were
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songs that the beatles were you know felt comfortable playing or maybe there's another reason but
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to me although we're talking about two original compositions these are songs that we
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that you know i wouldn't choose for a set list yeah especially
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babies in black which i my personal opinion is it's not one of their stronger songs yeah in fact
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beatles for sale is considered probably one of their weakest albums that was released during the 62 through
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66 period so um yeah that's a very good point offer why do those songs come back
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yeah should we go to help yeah okay all right so we jump to 1965 to august
Help
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um just one comment before we go over the the chart here in 1965 we see a reduction in the number
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of shows they did only 85 shows so that's a major reduction
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uh of course they did uh the movie help and they had other activities but uh it
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seems that you know the craziness of appearing like day after day after day
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has you know disappeared that's uh that's what we see um so number five help
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was released on the uk in the uk on august 13th of 1965
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we see that it has 14 songs and again two covers on the album on side b
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act naturally and this is misleading so this is album number five
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and we still we still see two covers on the beatles album uh which to me seemed like
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fillers in a way but uh that's just my opinion if we jump to the live show
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so a day after release on the uk in the uk they were in new york at shea stadium
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that's august 15th excuse me two days after that and this is what they played we get the
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twelve song setlist eight originals and four covers
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and you can see the covers marked also interesting they played 12 songs
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live instead of the usual 11 and uh they played the last five uk
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number ones including the current single the number one song help but this set list again it's like a
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mishmash of covers songs which are not like the top hits or
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the you know important songs by the beatles but five hits
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well just that yesterday is not on the set list that's amazing yeah you're right
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and now folks we are five albums in and
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the set list contains four covers in my opinion there should be no covers
36:07
because again we have to put it into the context of of the beatles official narrative brilliant prolific genius
36:13
songwriters that set list of 12 songs in my opinion should be 12
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original compositions sourced from the five albums that they have released yet like opher
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says 12 song set list four covers and they didn't play yesterday so
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i don't know again it seems very off to me should we move to rubber soul yeah
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okay let's move to rubisol now let's take a look at what's going on there okay album number six the release date
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in the uk was december 3rd of 1965 so obviously
36:50
ready for uh the christmas shoppers and also on the set list which is they
36:56
appeared on um december 3rd of 1965 they did two shows on that day
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they appeared in the odeon theater in glasgow of scotland and they did 11
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songs with only one cover which is act act naturally now day tripper and we can work it out were
37:16
issued as a double a side single and we're not on the album but they are
37:22
they have been they the villagers did perform them as we can see on the set list also we see that they
37:29
still perform songs which were not among the greatest hits and again we see babies in black and she
37:35
is a woman so in an eleventh song set they take the place these two songs take
37:40
the place of much bigger uh songs or hits so this is again uh rather odd to me
37:47
yeah and now we do see yesterday being played live but this is some time
37:52
down the line now when i would say that paul mccartney
37:58
learned the song so it took a period of time for him to learn the song to be able to play live if it wasn't studio
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players behind the scene or playing to a backing track which i've discussed this before that was
38:12
taking place but we'll give them the benefit of the doubt here and say that uh we were playing um this stuff live
38:19
okay just for the sake of argument but you're right offer i mean i considering now that we have six albums
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uh under their belt that's that set list of 11 songs is is not i mean it's not stellar i agree like
38:34
why babies in black is still being played is beyond me uh is there anything else you wanted to talk about no i think
38:41
we can move to the final the seventh album of this time period 1962-1966
38:48
revolver yeah revolver just one comment in 1966 we see
Revolver
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that the show shows count was reduced to only
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and of course um august the 29th was the last show so
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in eight months they only appeared 35 times so we see a major reduction in live shows
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in those first eight months of 1966. let's take a look at the um chart here
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album seven revolver we have 14 brand new songs okay so the album was
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released on august 5th of 1966 so the album
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and the single double eyesight single which is elena rugby and yellow submarine
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are in the stores or in the music shops okay so august 5th
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the album revolver is in the album section of every music store in america
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and if you go to the you will you will go to enter a store a music store and go to the signal section
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you would find elena rigby and yellow submarine as a double a site single
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now we jump only a week later to the first show
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from the final tour ever and there in america of course
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the first show was in the international amphitheater that's in chicago
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on august 12th and take a look at the set list eleven swans two covers nine originals
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and the single elenoric the yellow submarine was not performed live thus strangely
40:34
receiving no promotion from the band we see the return of i wanna be your man
40:39
of all songs being performed they did perform the big summer number one single paperback writer
40:46
which is not a revolver by the way the promotional clickful paperwork writer is the last time we see biopol alive that
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is on a beatles film clip so this is uh i know we talked about it
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in the past a week after a new double a site single and a major
41:06
album is released we don't see elena rigby or yellow submarine or
41:12
taxman as you have mentioned on the set list but we get two covers
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we get she is a woman and babies in black again we get i want to be a man
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which was a hit for the rolling stones but the beatles perform it here so again a very strange set list
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on a major tour yeah this is very telling oh for you and i have discussed
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this before there's not one song from revolver that made it into the
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set list after revolver was released and of course
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revolver is considered by many beatles fans and uh rock music
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critics to be one of the greatest albums rock albums of all time and not one song from revolver made it onto the set list
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now some people will want to argue well the songs got more sophisticated and it was difficult to
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replicate them in a live setting and all that stuff as far as i'm concerned that's just
42:13
that's just excuses and rationalization because there are ways to present the songs live
42:20
you could do acoustic versions of them you can do uh edited versions of them
42:25
to bring that to the audience i think not doing them is very strange so you would figure some
42:32
way out to get those songs played in a live setting and it just didn't happen
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and again two covers rock and roll music aren't we tired of that by now
42:43
long tall sally the same thing babies in black i want to be your man
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i don't know it doesn't resonate with me offer yeah one would assume that let's say they did that leonardo mccartney did
42:57
write all of the songs so relatively close to the recording and
43:02
then the issuing of the album so with some practice they could have done it they could have
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performed absolutely they are the beatles i mean the biggest man in the world and we see
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this uh set list and by the way there are videos you can catch on youtube
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from this american tour and these are the songs and in this order i did catch a couple of uh
43:28
at least a couple of them this is a revolver which concludes this uh very
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interesting time period in the beatles history yeah and so some folks who might be new to uh to the research might be
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asking well why didn't they play something from revolver well it goes back to the
43:47
analysis i did with rubber soul in my big presentation did the beatles write all the wrong music which stated that
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the beatles weren't writing the music the music was written for them and they weren't on the recorded tracks on
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the albums and the singles that was all done by studio musicians i called the wrecking crew model
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and the songs that the beatles did play live they were taught those songs they had to learn those songs and
44:12
rehearse them and then they would take them out on the road so clearly what happened in the case of revolver is they
What happened with Revolver
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didn't have time to learn those songs and practice them and rehearse them to take them out on the road and that's why
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there were no songs from evolver on the tour that followed the release of the album because the beatles didn't
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know how to play those songs they weren't taught those songs and they didn't
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learn and rehearse them okay so if you're just new to uh to the work here that's my
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position oh for i i don't want to speak on your behalf but what's your take yeah
44:50
this is uh again you have to remember the mo this is the most popular band in
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the world and lennon and mccartney are hailed as the greatest
45:02
and many beatles fans consider them to be geniuses
45:08
so then we see the setlists with uh many covers and and they i think
45:15
that they were very proficient in doing covers because this is what they did before they got uh the recording session
45:22
yeah the recording contract sorry they were very proficient and also they played
Live gigs
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we know that they played six seven eight hours a night and i think in 1916 1961
45:34
but mostly covers that's what that's what we know so maybe they felt more comfortable doing
45:40
covers but again after seven albums with major songs major hits we get these set
45:47
lists which uh raise a lot of questions yeah and and you touch on a very
45:53
important point here so all of the live gigs and performances that they were doing between 1960 and
45:59
1963 that was done in order to
46:04
increase the beatles performance skills they were performers so that was part of their their
46:10
programming if you will their conditioning to take the psychological
46:16
operation known as beetlemania and take it out on the road
46:21
in support of this narrative which says that as opher mentioned
46:26
we have these prolific genius songwriters and here are their songs
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so that's what the beatles were doing they were being worked
46:37
in order to be more proficient in learning songs and then performing them and taking them out
46:44
live that's why they had this non-stop extensive
46:50
gigging that started back in 1960 when they went to hamburg back in august of 1960
46:58
right through the end of 1963. and if you don't believe us what i'll do is i'll put the link down below
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in wikipedia they have a whole list of all of their live gigs going back to
47:10
1960 and they were playing virtually every day and as ofer mentioned when they were in
47:17
hamburg their stints were seven to eight hours
47:23
a night so they got to the hamburg club at 6 00 p.m and this is per peak best by
47:29
the way and i'll put that interview down in the description box as well and they didn't leave
47:36
the venue the club until 2 a.m and then in that interview that pete did he said that
47:42
by the time they woke up after seven or eight hours of playing
47:48
it was 3 p.m in the afternoon and then they had to be back at the club
47:54
at 6 00 p.m so that left a three-hour window of time in which they did you
48:00
know i guess they ate right had to wake up you know uh and then get themselves over to the
48:06
club by 6 p.m you know so there was no songwriting taking place in hamburg
48:11
absolutely not you know anybody who continues to try to believe that they were writing songs you know in
48:17
their sleep on the back of napkins uh all this stuff it's it's just
48:23
nonsense it's it's a nonsense narrative often should we move to your uh summary
48:28
conclusions and thoughts yeah just to summarize
Summary
48:34
we ask ourselves when did they have time to write songs so we know that the beatles were touring
48:39
heavily between 1960 and 1966 they had performed
48:45
1461 times again this this number is according to the setlist.fm
48:52
website um many mainly in the uk and germany
48:58
when any of the first seven albums were issued in the uk they were either in the middle of touring or beginning to tour
49:05
that raises the question again of when did they have time to write all of their songs that's one thing
49:12
also there are very short breaks between recording an album and beginning or continuing to tour
49:19
this is very unusual but i guess this these were the builds lives
49:24
throughout this time period this is very unusual because in many cases bands record an album then start
49:32
rehearsing for a tour and only then tour this is not the case with the beatles
49:37
since their hectic live dates are too many it seems they did not have time to
49:42
rehearse prepare for touring and no time to write songs now these are
49:49
i guess mike and mike's and my conclusions
49:54
but i'm sure that people are watching this can write all comments
50:01
and let us know if they agree with us or not and again this presentation is not
50:08
built on memoirs this is simply a comparison between albums
50:13
and performances and i know that there are many music musicians money who follow your work
50:20
but even if you know a listener is not a musician only music music fan
50:25
i think that this um this tour this does raises several
50:30
questions which i mean this is what we're trying to to conclude with yeah so as i've mentioned
50:36
many times over what i do many times and i know what you do is we take existing
50:42
information existing data that's contained within the official narrative and then we
50:48
take it apart we do a deeper dive we analyze it does it make sense
50:54
so as offer mentioned all this information that's been presented it's out there
50:59
it's it's not hidden it's information that's there as an example they performed 1461 times
51:07
that's an incredible amount of live performances when i did the um
51:12
rubber soul analysis in my from my big presentation did the beatles write all the wrong music going back to what alpha
51:18
said they were on their american tour they did 16 cities and 16 days i think it was over yeah something like that i
51:25
mean right so they were doing a city a day so they would they would perform they get on an airplane or a bus or
51:31
whatever they get to the next city this was in the u.s right i think they did one stop in in canada if i recall and
51:37
then they had a six-week break and then they went into the rubber soul sessions on october 11th 1965 and the official
51:44
narrative tells us that when they came into those sessions they had no backlog of music they wrote
51:51
rehearsed arranged recorded mixed 16 songs 14 for
51:57
the album and two songs for the single we can work it out in daytripper in 30 days and my
52:03
contention is that was not possible so um again like i said if you take the
52:09
official story and you stop taking it at face value and you start to examine it what happens
52:16
is it's like pulling the thread on a sleeve on a sweater it eventually just comes apart and this is what i have
52:23
found offered i know you as well when we take a closer look at this thing you know things start to
52:29
not make sense and the story begins to collapse right yeah okay so let's take a
52:34
look at the last slide here and uh let's take us through this over yeah so we did
Analysis
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i did a summary chart just to show
52:45
the percentage of covers out of
52:51
total songs on an album and then on a show and um if this runs too fast you can of
52:58
course uh you can stop the video and just take a look at each other's too many numbers here
53:05
but basically the um the idea is like this i mean
53:10
why did we get so many covers and albums on live shows so this is a summary of covers
53:18
the beatles record them on albums and performed on the live shows the table basically
53:25
summarizes the seven albums and shows like we have covered in the beginning of uh
53:31
in throughout this uh presentation so if you take a look at the chart you
53:36
get the numbering on one through seven on the left side
53:42
we start with the total song of an album this is the second column
53:49
covers in that album for example album number one there was his six covers out of 14 songs that
53:56
amounts to 43 percent of non-original compositions
54:03
and then if you follow it um there's the number of songs performed on
54:08
the live show as we've seen on the show close to the release of the first
54:15
album they only performed six songs one of which was a cover
54:20
now i don't want to go through all the numbers but let's jump to the bottom of this table and show
54:26
show like the the bottom line numbers so we have 97 songs
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on the entire first seven albums look at the very last row
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um 20 of them were covers which is uh 24.1
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and on the live shows they had 69 songs 20 of which were
54:51
covers which amounts to 29 which is almost a third
54:56
so a third of all of the biggest songs performed live were covers okay so this
55:02
is a very telling number in my opinion maybe some other band it might not be a bad number yeah but
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for a band that had at that time by the time we got to 1966
55:15
had 91 original compositions when we add in the 77 original compositions from the
55:21
albums and then uh 14 singles original compositions that were
55:26
not on the albums that's 77 plus 14 is 91 and almost 30 percent of the songs that
55:33
they played live or covers that doesn't make any sense to me at all like i said especially when we put it
55:40
into the context of who the beatles were and are at least
55:45
what we're told yeah so um [Music]
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i'm continuing to read the second bullet here which is you know just like what you said 29
55:58
almost a third of the performed sponsored by the wheels of covers
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and what um
56:10
the reliance on doing so many couples lives begs several questions
56:16
so if lemon and mccartney wrote so many original songs where are they and you mentioned at the beginning of this
56:21
presentation that 65 out of 90 or 91 songs
56:27
will never play live right that's a lot
56:32
and then we can ask ourselves why
56:38
did they not test them live or why not test more songs live instead of doing covers
56:45
which we know many bands do right why did they choose on some occasions to play covers instead
56:51
of performing some of those songs which were the biggest hits at that moment or in that year
57:00
and or even or even in previous years i mean going back right why didn't they play some of the big hits from the
57:05
beginning i mean fans would want to hear that yes
57:11
now since the early days they did mostly covers did he take off uh some pressure off of
57:17
them when performing live i mean did they found find it easier to play covers
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which they knew probably from the hamburg and liverpool early days
57:29
did they feel more confident doing covers at least for a portion of every concert instead of doing new music
57:36
that's also something we have to think about or and this is something mike you touched
57:42
upon on several of your more recent presentations was there a logistical issue or
57:48
consideration as well if they were helped by backstage musicians
57:53
was that the reason why they did so many couples live we don't know we can only
58:01
think and discuss what we see
58:06
yeah so i think what happened over again my opinion is that um
58:11
it took time for them to learn the quote original songs
58:17
so george martin had them sitting in a studio and they had to be shown these songs
58:26
how to play them what was the melody line so when you think about it they had to be taught the guitar chords they had
58:32
to be taught the different riffs the lead guitar
58:38
the bass uh ringo how to learn the drumming so the point i'm making is that this is
58:44
not something that they just did in a couple of hours so they you know the process of learning
58:49
these songs took time and then once they were taught the songs and they studied their parts then they
58:57
had to rehearse them all of that takes time
59:03
and so they were only able to learn a certain amount of songs within a certain
59:08
period of time and that's why
59:13
they had to fall back on covers because they already knew those there was no learning involved with long
59:19
tall sally in kansas city and songs like that but the learning of the quote original
59:26
compositions was a process it's not just something you whip off and
59:31
you bang through and yep got it that didn't happen that did not happen
59:37
so that's why i believe we see all the covers because it just took a long time for them to learn the original stuff
59:44
and i use the term original loosely yeah [Laughter]
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so this is uh an excellent piece of work over as usual
59:56
and again you know we we gave our opinion everybody knows where i stand on this stuff so
1:00:01
you know but uh but offer and i are in sync because we've had discussions on this stuff but
1:00:07
we're going to leave it to you you decide we're presenting information we're presenting data we're presenting
1:00:14
our research and our analysis that's what we're doing and if it resonates with you
1:00:19
great if it doesn't resonate with you that's okay too like i've always said people think i'm
1:00:26
always trying to convince people i'm not trying to convince anybody of anything
1:00:32
people will come to their own conclusions based upon what it is
1:00:37
they want to believe and whether they change their position
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on something um that's completely up to them you can you cannot convince
1:00:48
somebody of something before they are willing to listen
1:00:53
and to open their minds to a different perspective
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so that's why i don't waste my time doing that so over any closing
1:01:06
yeah i just want to state maybe like
1:01:12
a half a sentence from the uh any of the last two versions of memoirs
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well we learned that uh george martin basically
1:01:25
cut the pills into the studio to use their voices that's a line i
1:01:31
vividly remember from memoirs
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and that's like a huge clue for us well there are other clues of course and
1:01:43
other other statements in memoirs but when we compare
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the quality or the quantity and the quality of songs on their albums first seven
1:01:55
albums there are many great songs but
1:02:01
we can conclude i guess again this is my
1:02:07
my conclusion and i know yours too that they did not write
1:02:13
or compose or even play on many of the songs in
1:02:19
that time period and most probably in the second period after
1:02:24
1966 and but again this is something it will be
1:02:30
very interesting to see in the comments to this presentation
1:02:36
and again mike i wanted to thank you uh for inviting me
1:02:42
and uh we'll continue to follow this story and see what what happens
1:02:47
yeah any time offer you know that you have an open invite your work is excellent i do want to say
1:02:54
it's not just memoirs that that tells us that uh george martin like their voices we hear that from george martin himself
1:03:00
at interview clips i really like their voices and they had charisma how many times
1:03:06
have we heard that they had charisma and he liked their voices so uh
1:03:11
again um a lot of this work folks uh before we conclude here
1:03:17
is outside of memoirs you know so memoirs was essentially
1:03:24
foundational it was a stepping stone that got me curious it got over curious and
1:03:30
other researchers and colleagues of ours and
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we've gone outside of memoirs because that's what memoirs does memoirs is actually
1:03:42
asking you to step outside the book and to research
1:03:47
beyond the book because it would be impossible to
1:03:53
contain everything in one book it wouldn't be 666 pages it would be 66 666 pages so it had to cover
1:04:01
everything so that's the thing it gets uh if you're intrepid enough it gets your
1:04:07
interest peaked and you start poking around and taking a look at things before you know it you have presentations like this
1:04:15
so well offer again i really appreciate you coming on and anytime you have
1:04:22
any analysis or research you want to present just let me know and uh we'll get it out there i really appreciate the time and effort
1:04:30
you put into this presentation thank you so much okay all right with that folks we'll wrap up
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the comment section is open let us know what you think and we will talk soon have a great day
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